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230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 dec 2014, 14:25
door sjh
Ik heb een W123 300D station uit 1979. Gezien de mrb en dreigende 'milieu' maatregelen wil ien benzine motor erin zetten. Mijn voorkeur gaat uit naar M102.982 blok, 230E uit een W124.

Heb ik ook een andere automaatbak nodig?

Evt andere automaatbak heeft 5 versnellingen?

Is dit mogelijk en heeft iemand nog suggesties voor een benzine blok?

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 dec 2014, 15:42
door Gewoon Ik
andere automaatbak, want startmotor zit anders.
Zeker stuurdozen en dergelijke meenemen want de M102 uit de W124 heeft die nodig (KE-jetronic ipv K-jetronic).
Ander differentieel en andere cardanassen (cardan diesel is niet dezelfde als die van een benzine).

Automaatbak met 5 versnellingen is er bij de latere types W124, maar geen idee of die past, cardan zal dan vrees ik maatwerk worden.

Het gaat, maar lijkt mij eenvoudiger met een 4bak automaat. Kan je de cardanassen en differentieel van een 230E uit een W123 gebruiken.

Vergeet zeker niet je dieseltank grondig te reinigen alvorens daar benzine in te doen, ook een elektrische benzinepomp en filter niet vergeten!

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 dec 2014, 09:49
door Wietse
Het beste is als je de W124 in zijn geheel ernaast heb staan. Maar al met al komt er meer bij kijken dan dat je denkt.
Bedrading, motorsteunen, oliemeter is elektronisch, past het cardan?

etc etc Je moet redelijk kunnen sleutelen en improviseren.

Koop aub niet alleen het motorblok en bak, je hebt veel meer nodig.

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 dec 2014, 13:04
door Wiebren240D
Hoi

wat Wietse zegt is waar.
wij hebben net een project met een moter wissel uit een W201 in een W114 achter de rug
je komt echt wel wat tegen en dan is een complete auto erbij echt handig.

maar ik wens je suc6 met het ombouwen.
met de groeten van Wiebren ut Snits

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 dec 2014, 18:04
door GerW123
hoi
ik zouw als ik jouw was een gewone 200 of een230 cardurteur motor er in leggen
dan hoef je alvast niet het werk met een benziene pomp van achteren te doen

groet :woohoo:

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 10:48
door Gewoon Ik
m102 is altijd met elektrische benzinepomp dacht ik.

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 16:08
door Diets
Op een injectiemotor, kan je een carburateur monteren. Maar dan heb je ook het inlaatspruitstuk nodig. Mechanische pomp kan je monteren op de daarvoor voorziene plaats, zit gewoon een afdekplaatje op. Voordeel is wel dat je dan een multiriem hebt...

MVG Diets

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 18:58
door Bob
Mischien heb ik wat gemist, maar. ...... waarom niet een 230E met automaat v/d W123 (84'of 85). Heb je allemaal passende delen voor ?

Gr. Bob

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 20:59
door sjh
Kan ook, sta open voor alle suggesties, hoewel ik voor het gemak neig naar een carbu motor ipv einspritz..

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 21:01
door sjh
heb alleen hiervoor een W124 250D gehad en die was erg zuinig en snel...

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 22:53
door Wiebren240D
Hoi

dat hebben wij ook gedaan een 250 5 cilinder blok in een W114 gezet.
is wel te doen zelf moter steunen maken en een stuk kabelboom erin zetten.

maar ik wens je suc6
met de groeten van Wiebren ut Snits

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2014, 23:31
door Bob

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 dec 2014, 11:05
door sjh
welk motor nummer heb je het dan over?

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 dec 2014, 15:16
door Bob
Laatste type 230E motor, type 102.980.

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 dec 2014, 16:54
door Gewoon Ik
M102.980 is de 230E motor in de W123 is met K-jetronic.
M102.920 is de 200 motor in de W123, uitgerust met carburator.

M102.982 is de 230E motor in de W124 (en W201?) en is met KE-jetronic

Bij een K-jetronic heb je ook de onstekingsmodele nodig, zit aan het linkerbinnenspatbord gevezen, en het relais nodig.
Leuke motor!
Let wel op, de versnellingsbakken van de diesels passen er niet op : de startmotor zit aan de andere kant.

Re: 230E motor in 300TD

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 dec 2014, 17:10
door sjh
Vandaag bij Ivo van Mercedes Only in Hapert geweest. Deze adviseerde geen benzine motor erin te hangen. Er moet teveel aangepast worden (bv schutbord, uitlaat, tank, en nog zo wat)