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Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 maart 2018, 13:20
door Gangisallesman
Ik rij al jaren met auto's die zijn voorzien van conventionele contact punt ontsteking. Het probleem hiervan was dat ik vaak weer wat moest afstellen en vervangen omdat de auto met name stationair onrustig ging lopen (overslaan). Omdat ik best veel kilometers maak op gas wilde ik hier graag een oplossing voor vinden. Electronische onsteking was of duur of niet te vinden met name voor m'n opel.
Op het web kwam ik een artikel over een Velleman kitje tegen . Deze heb ik toen gekocht bij conrad . Solderen had ik nooit gedaan op een printplaatje dus een kleinere soldeerbout gekocht van pakweg 15 euro en ik heb het kitje volgens duidelijke beschrijving in elkaar gezet . Ik heb nu in m'n opel commodore en in m'n W115 220B een Velleman kitje ingebouwd . Hiermee worden de puntjes alleen nog gebruikt als onderbreking en loopt er geen hoogspanning meer over de puntjes want dit wordt electronisch gedaan met het kitje. Hierdoor geen inbranden van de puntjes meer. Voor nog geen 20 euro , soldeer je het in elkaar en monteren maar. Is echt makkelijk zelf te doen (ook het solderen)en er zijn maar 4 draden om aan te sluiten(bobine plus ,bobine min , massa en naar puntjes).
Mijn auto's hebben nog nooit zo mooi gelopen na installatie , zo heb ik nu geen omkijken meer naar de puntjes. Alleen mechanische slijtage van puntjes en nu elke 50000km vervangen. Ik heb de kitjes onder het daishbord en is dus verder niet zichtbaar en blijft droog.
Heel verhaal maar zomaar een idee voor sommige die hier ook steeds mee te maken hebben.
Lijkt wel een commercieel verhaaltje maar voordelen zijn toch zeker wel dat de auto beter start een netter en zuiniger zal lopen voor weinig geld, ik ben er blij mee !
Gangisalleman.

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 maart 2018, 14:52
door Martine
Hey Gangisalleman, dat klinkt goed ! Bedankt voor de tip, ik heb em al besteld. :handgestures-thumbup:

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 maart 2018, 17:00
door Wiebren240D
Hoi

en waar bestel je het lijkt mij ook wel wat

met de groeten van Wiebren ut Snits

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 maart 2018, 21:44
door MBBelgium
even snel gegoogeld en ik denk dat het velleman kit K2543 is. Te vinden op ebay, amazon, etc... 17€... Vermoedelijk ook in elektronica zaken te verkrijgen.

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 maart 2018, 00:49
door RD500sec
@ wiebren, TS heeft het over Conrad, maar er zijn idd meer zaken die het hebben:

https://www.elektronicacatalogus.nl/ELE ... TOS-(K2543)?gclid=CjwKCAiArOnUBRBJEiwAX0rG_atHGC9JbQKhvFcwbFc-kk-oys7l0qu98oQ3Jnu6b-vJ71XbHQ3MmhoCR0QQAvD_BwE

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/velleman-k2543 ... term=63469

https://www.dertronics.nl/velleman-kits ... N0QAvD_BwE

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 maart 2018, 21:31
door Wiebren240D
Hoi

en bedankt
ga er eentje bestellen voor mijn 230 coupe

met de groeten van Wiebren ut Snits

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 06 maart 2018, 11:11
door Gangisallesman
Zullen jullie geen spijt van krijgen , ik heb draden van pakweg 1,5 mtr gebruikt en het kitje achter de asbak geplaatst van de middenconsole . Echt heet wordt die volgens mij niet.
Succes iig !

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 apr 2018, 20:24
door Martine
De laatste week heb ik leren solderen, en eindelijk kwam ik er aan toe om mn Velleman kitje in elkaar te zetten. Vandaag hebben we hem geplaatst. Ik heb ervoor gekozen om em onder de kap te maken, in de buurt van waar de actie is. In een schakeldoos met de koelribben uitstekend aan de zijkant.

Starten, en wauw ! Zo mooi liep ie nog nooit ! Heel veel rustiger, meer kracht in de lage toeren, en veel minder lawaai.

Hartstikke bedankt voor deze gouden tip Ad, Gangisallesman !! :handgestures-thumbup:

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 09:05
door Weizengelb
Hoi Ad en iedereen.

Inderdaad is dit een goede verbetering van de ontstekingssystemen met kontaktpunten. Hoewel onze auto´s natuurlijk goed gebouwd zijn in een kwaliteit die tegenwoordig niet meer vanzelfsprekend is, is op het gebied van elektra wel het een en ander verbetert.

Een alternatief is ook een setje van bijvoorbeeld Pertronix. Hierbij worden ook de kantaktpunten vervangen door een (kontaktloze) magneet induktiegever. Dan heb helemaal geen kontaktpunten meer. Er wordt dan ook meteen een sterkere Bobine toegepast voor een krachtigere vonk. Het past in de normale verdeler en je ziet er niets van. Kan ook altijd weer teruggebouwd worden.

Hier in mijn toenmalige 230S:
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Als je verdeler zowieso slecht is, speling op de as, vervroeging werkt niet goed, dan is een niewe verdeler met electronische ontsteking van 123 ignition ook nog een alternatief.

Groeten, Math

Re: Velleman goed alternatief voor electr. ontst.

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2018, 12:52
door Gangisallesman