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Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2018, 12:12
door drieske
Onze 280C van eind 1977 heeft twee uitlaten; een midden demper en einddemper. Nu ben ik op zoek naar de middendemper. Ik zie aangeboden een Ebenspächer OE 123 490 48 15. Zou deze moeten passen ???
In het onderdelen boek staat een ander nummer n.l.: 123 490 13 15 maar deze is niet meer leverbaar.
Onder de auto zit een middendemper met het nummer: 123 491 02 01 1568 en eronder staat: Gillet 0701
Wie weet raad? Zou de Ebenspächer de juiste zijn ...?

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2018, 13:12
door MBreed
De EPC geeft ook de 13 15 op. Als ik ga zoeken op de 48 15 krijg ik helemaal niks, ook op google niet. Klopt het nummer bij die Eberspächer wel? Heb je daar een link van?

Als ik bij deze (ook van Gillet) naar het gestanste nummer kijk is dat hetzelfde als die er nu nog onder zit, de 123 491 02 01 en de 123 490 12 15 is die voor de 250, dus of die nu hetzelfde is als voor de 280? Dat zou zomaar kunnen als hij er bij jou nu onder zit.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 2-223-9614

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Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2018, 17:04
door drieske
Dank je Max, hoopte al dat je zou reageren. Ik heb even een mailtje gestuurd of het nummer van de Ebenspächer wel klopt en toevallig niet eindigt op1315 i.p.v. 4815....... De 1215 van de link is van een 250, de 280 heeft aan beide kanten twee pijpen.
De link is eBay 401512195146.

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2018, 21:47
door MBreed
Maar de link van de 12 15, op kleinanzeigen, heeft een tweede nummer in het staal gestanst (een oud nummer) dat identiek is aan het nummer van de demper onder jouw auto. Kijk maar eens goed op de tweede foto. Dat vind ik dan apart. Er staat ook 123 491 02 01 1568

In de beschijving van die demper op E-Bay staat bij herstellernr. een W124 nummer :think:. Ik denk dat hij het zelf ook niet weet :grin: . Hij lijkt wel op een 280 demper inderdaad, want het stuk aan de voorkant, met dat "schild" ertussen, lijkt verdacht veel op die op de EPC foto. Maar dat moet je dan wel zeker weten. Eigenlijk zou je je eigen demper even goed moeten vergelijken.

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Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 10:41
door drieske
Inderdaad, dat Hersteller nummer doet eerder denken aan een vroege W124 met een M110 motor. Voor zover die bestaat ?? Inmiddels nog geen antwoord uit Duitsland, we wachten af....

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 13:28
door MBreed
Oké. Ik heb even om hulp gevraagd bij mijn vader :) . Het nummer 123 491 02 01 is alleen het dempernummer, dus daar heb je niks aan. Onder jouw auto zit dus de 123 490 13 15 en niets anders. Die op E-bay is volgens hem van een W124 gezien het stootbeugeltje bij de demper (wat een W123 nooit heeft) en de demper zelf is ook anders. Voor wat voor W124 hij dan is, weet ik niet. Één met een M110 is nooit geleverd.

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 13:48
door drieske
Mijn dank is groot. Dus de advertentie klopt niet, helaas, het leek in eerste instantie een goede mogelijkheid.

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 14:12
door MBreed
Helaas inderdaad. Moet wel zeggen, dat er praktisch niks te vinden is. Het meeste wordt toch wel ergens nagemaakt, of ligt nog ergens in oude voorraad. Heb hem wel bij een dealer in DE gevonden, maar de prijs is van de zotten :-o. De beste optie is waarschijnlijk wachten en ebay in de gaten houden of hem na laten maken.

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Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 14:23
door MBreed
Alle nieuwe originele zitten rond de 2000 euro :roll: . Dit heb ik wel gevonden. Weliswaar Merk X, maargoed, bij gebrek aan beter. Heb ook zoiets gekocht ter vervanging van de voorpijp van mijn wagen, bevalt tot dusverre prima.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Auspuff-Mittels ... Sw-0xYXMvd

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 14:40
door drieske
Merk X had ik ook al gevonden is van IMASAF; een grote uitlaten fabriek in Italië. Tja, alleen die kwaliteit laat waarschijnlijk te wensen.......?¿?

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 15:07
door MBreed
Ja die pijp van mij is ook van IMASAF. Het is wat lichter uitgevoerd, maar in mijn geval was het echt de enige die nog te krijgen was ( ja of bij MB voor 1100 euro) en ik had hem echt nodig. Pasvorm was prima, slijtage kan ik nog niets over zeggen. Zit er nu net een paar maanden onder. In mijn geval was het natuurlijk alleen de pijp, jij hebt er ook een demper bij en dat is natuurlijk nog meer afhankelijk van kwaliteit. Als je de tijd hebt zou ik wachten en het internet in de gaten houden, maar jij hebt natuurlijk wel een uitvoering die niet zo interessant is voor fabrikanten vanwege de kleine oplage van de 280C, dus moet je het al hebben van de NOS (voor zover die er nog is..).

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 19:03
door Coupe280
Hoi
Als je wel van een 280CE kan vinden
Past die ook zonder problemen onder een 280C
Ik heb in het verleden wel eens een complete uitlaat van een 280CE onder een 280C gezet
Er zat alleen een extra dempertje onder de 280CE
Maar was verder geen probleem
Heb hier in schuur nog liggen, als je foto's wil hebben?
Doe maar mailtje , foto hier neer zetten gaat mij te moeilijk met verkleinen of vergroten.
Mvrg Tonnie

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 19:58
door RD500sec
Heb je het recent nog geprobeerd dan? Je kunt nu namelijk wel grote foto’s uploaden.

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jul 2018, 20:16
door Coupe280
Nee Richard
Al lang geleden dat ik hier foto s geplaatst heb
Ging altijd lastig met verkleinen of vergroten
Zal morgen eens in de schuur wat foto's maken kijken of het nu makkelijker gaat
Bedankt voor de tip
Mvrg Tonnie

Re: Uitlaat 280, M110 motor met carburateur.

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 jul 2018, 18:04
door Coupe280
Ik weet niet of het lukt met foto's
Maar deze uitlaat van een 280CE heb ik jarenlang onder een 280C gehad.
Dat past eventueel ook dus als je daar makkelijker aan kan komen,is dat ook een optie.
Mvrg Tonnie