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Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 jul 2020, 11:25
door Thinus
Beste W123 liefhebbers,


Ik weet dat het forum vol staat met dit ontwerp, maar kan de antwoorden niet vinden op mijn vragen.

Ik zit met het volgende probleem.

Ik heb een W123TDT en mijn niveauregeling werkt niet 100% tenminste, hij werkt wel goed, staat mooi op hoogte, bij meer gewicht klimt hij mooi op niveau, maar zodra ik mijn auto een uurtje (of langer) niet heb gebruikt dan zakt hij bij de achterwielen naar beneden.
Bij het starten klimt hij weer omhoog en tijdens het rijden hoor ik soms een sissend geluid (bijpompen) bij het nemen van bijvoorbeeld drempels.

Ik weet dat mijn Mercedes gewoon op niveau moet blijven staan.
Het is immers geen Citroën ;-).

Op niveau blijven deed hij altijd ook goed, maar omdat mijn auto tijdens het rijden begon te dansen/stuiteren heb ik de hydraulische dempers vervangen door andere gebruikte dempers.
Ook de regelunit is vervangen omdat deze lekte.
Alles staat goed afgesteld en lekt geen olie.

Voor de start op 60cm. Na de start op 63cm van grond naar hoogste boogrand van het spatbord.
(zitten 15inch kroonkurkvelgen op)

1) Is er een simpele oplossing die ik over het hoofd zie?

2) Ik lees hier op het forum dat het de overdrukventiel kan zijn, maar is deze te repareren/reviseren? zit deze intern? Zo ja hebben jullie een adresje waar ik dit kan laten doen aub

3) Waar kun je nog eventueel betaalbare/ goedwerkende/ nieuwe /gerviseerde hydraulische vering kopen?

4) Ik las ergens dat iemand ze heeft laten reviseren in Hongarije. Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee?

Ik hoop dat jullie me kunnen en willen helpen.

Alvast bedankt.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 jul 2020, 19:10
door RD500sec
Je geeft aan dat je de dempers hebt vervangen wat bedoel je daar mee?
Zijn dat de veerbollen die onder de wagenbodem zitten, of
Zijn dat de veercilinders, ook wel ten onrechte schokdempers genoemd?

Veerbollen kun je het beste nieuw aanschaffen, deze kunnen als ze defect raken een stuiterend veerkarakter geven.
De pomp zou inwendig kunnen lekken, reviseren van de pomp kan mogelijk je probleem met zakken verhelpen.
De hoogteregelaar die je hebt vervangen zou ook kunnen lekken, en ook voor het zakken kunnen zorgen.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 jul 2020, 10:19
door Thinus
Hoi Richard, bedankt voor je reactie.

De veerbollen zijn goed. Deze zijn niet vervangen.

De hydraulische veringen ( hydrodempers /schokbrekers met niveauregeling) zijn vervangen door een set die ik nog onder mijn reserve W123 300TDT had zitten.

Je geeft aan dat de pomp inwendig zou kunnen lekken.
Is er een manier om daar achter te komen/testen?
Dit geld ook voor de hoogteregelbaar.
(Beide lekken dus niet uitwendig)

Het zou zonde zijn als ik deze laat reviseren en dat het blijkt dat ze nog goed zijn.

Als je een adresje hebt voor me waar ik de pomp of hoogteregelbaar kan laten reviseren zou dat super zijn.

Groeten,
Martijn

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 jul 2020, 13:57
door Maikel
Hoi Martijn

Had je het hoofdstuk van Gerard Meijwaard gecheckt , ik heb zelf
de pomp gereviseerd en mijn auto zakt nu niet meer. Binnenin liet hij waarschijnlijk de olie door naar het vat via retour leiding. Je heb wel nieuwe pakking en O ringen nodig . De regeling onder de auto is lastiger te reviseren. Meer werk enz.
Groeten Maikel

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 12:59
door Thinus
Top dank je wel Maikel,

Dit hoofdstuk had ik niet gezien. :roll:
Ik heb even op zijn naam gezocht en kwam hem tegen.
Hoofdstuk: W123/280TE Tips / hulp gevraagd revisie niveauregelaar.

Hij heeft dus de regelaar gereviseerd en jij de pomp.
Heb je hier meer info over?
Bestelnummer?
De kans is dus groot dat het aan de pomp ligt.
De pomp zit dus in de hydraulische dempers toch?

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 13:26
door WJ15129
De pomp zit voor op je motor

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 14:40
door Thinus
Pffff...dat is stom van me.
De pomp zit idd voorop.

Dan denk ik dat het niet aan de pomp ligt want deze is niet vervangen en het inzakken was pas nadat ik de hydraulische dempers en de regelunit heb vervangen.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 14:52
door JantjeV8
Dan was je met je oude regelunit waarschijnlijk beter af.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 15:38
door Thinus
Hoi JantjeV8,

Als het 100% aan de regelunit ligt dan gaat de lekkende unit er weer onder.
Liever een druppel dan dat hij steeds aan het oppompen is/inzakken, maar de vraag blijft of iemand mij kan vertellen waar het probleem nu echt zit.

Ik wil dit zsm oplossen.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2020, 17:30
door Maikel
Als je de regelunit reviseert , wat Gerard M ook gedaan heeft dan sluit de klep intern in de unit de retourleiding af. Nu blijft hij misschien door vervuiling of slechte O ringen open staan waardoor de olie weer terugloopt naar het vat.
Mijn pomp lekte wel, maar dat was niet goed te zien. Voel maar eens aan de onder en- achterkant. Of kijk met een spiegeltje.
Succes, leuk als het werkt maar als hij zakt :sick:

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 jul 2020, 09:41
door Thinus
Na telefonische contact te hebben gehad met Maikel ga ik zodra ik tijd heb de regelunit reviseren.
Ik hou jullie op de hoogte.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 jul 2020, 19:07
door Wietse
het zal zeer waarschijnlijk de niveau regelunit zijn. Zoals al gezegd, intern laat die de olie door naar retourleiding. Als je dus deze al vervangen hebt en alles netjes los hebt gekregen dan zal ik deze weer demonteren en reviseren. een setje kost ongeveer € 50 a 60 bij de dealer.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 jul 2020, 14:05
door Thinus
Dat denk ik nu ook inderdaad.

Setje kost incl verzending rond de €90,-
https://www.kurth-classics-autoparts.de ... gler-.html

Goedkoper vind ik ze bijna niet.
Mijn plaatselijke dealer heeft ze ook niet.

Mocht iemand een goedkoper adresje hebben dan hoor ik dat graag ;-)

Nr. A 000 586 00 32

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 jul 2020, 18:47
door Maikel
Prijzig nog voor een paar dingetjes en veertjes, goedkoper dan Kurth vindt ik ze ook niet.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 jul 2020, 20:40
door Wietse

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 aug 2020, 14:25
door 1111
gewoon bij de dealer bestellen kost nu €48 ex btw en korting.

gr, arie

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 aug 2020, 14:32
door Thinus
Bedankt Arie,
Ik ben gaan rondbellen, maar helaas had de dealer hem (toen) niet.
Het setje is al besteld en binnengekregen.

Binnenkort ga ik de regelunit reviseren.

Re: Niveauregeling zakt in

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 sep 2020, 22:32
door Thinus
Hallo allemaal,

De niveuaregelaar zit in elkaar, hij moet alleen nog onder de auto geplaatst worden en dan weet ik zeker of alles goed werkt.

Ik had wat foto's gemaakt maar toen ik halverwege was kwam ik deze link tegen.


Deel 1

https://www.drive2.ru/l/524515426034516088/

Super duidelijk en veel foto's.
Is in het Russisch, maar Google heeft deze automatisch vertaald voor me

Er is ook een deel 2 van.


https://www.drive2.ru/l/524517350179864815/

Groeten,
Martijn