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Hallo ,

Na wat filmpjes en het e.e.a. bekeken te hebben ben ik van plan om zelf mijn kleppen te gaan stellen van mijn
M 110 motor uit 1985

Wat mij opvalt is dat ik haast nergens zie of lees dat je voordat je gaat stellen eerst een soort borgklemmetje moet verwijderen voordat je de klep gaat stellen, lijkt mij ook wel nodig. Op het forum ook een hele mooie uitleg met foto's gezien en gelezen, maar ook daar werd niet over deze borgklemmetjes gesproken.
Kan het zo zijn dat er bepaalde bouwjaren zijn van deze motoren waar deze niet inzitten ?
Ook net een speciale steeksleutel besteld van Hazet, nr 2771, die hiervoor wel makkelijk is.

vr.gr. Peter

Naar mijn weten hebben alle m110 motoren deze clipjes. je kunt de metalen clipjes zo los halen, Je trekt ze als het ware naar achter

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Nee je hoeft niets los te halen of te verwijderen, met de juiste sleutel gaat het wel 't mooiste maar met een gewone steek ring 17 gaat het ook.
Je kunt de stelmoer zo verdraaien, gaat wat zwaar maar dat hoort.
Ben je uitgesteld, dus dat je niet meer op de juiste maat komt kun je een andere maat stelplaatjes gaan gebruiken. dan moet je wel de clip los halen.
Kijk maar eens naar mijn topic van de koprevisie: 6

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Je kunt meerdere kleppen stellen op een bepaalde positie, plak er b.v. een plakbandje op welke je gehad hebt, motor met dop 27 stukje verdraaien en je kunt er weer een paar doen enz.

Ik haal ze meestal wel los
En plaats ze terug bij de gestelde kleppen weet ik ook meteen welke ik gehad heb

Hallo John en Pascal,
Bedankt voor de reactie.

Kleppen stellen zonder de borgplaatjes weg te halen gaat dus, alleen wat zwaarder.
John, jouw topic had ik al doorgenomen, wat een (mooi)werk !
Als de rust terug gekeerd is, ga ik aan de gang, met de wasknijpers om te markeren welke er zijn gedaan !
Zal toch wat borgklemmetjes weghalen, al is het maar om er gevoel in te krijgen en kwaad kan het niet.

Voor iedereen een fijne jaarwisseling en een gezond en beter 2021 !!

vr.gr. Peter

Hallo,

Zo, eindelijk vandaag de tijd gehad om voor de eerste keer de kleppen te stellen van mijn M110
Viel zeker niet tegen, is zelfs makkelijker te doen dan bij mijn Volkswagens, Kever en Bus.
Met een steeksleutel is het te doen maar met de Hazet sleutel pak je de moer toch wel steviger vind ik en je kunt meer kracht zetten. Door af en toe heel even te starten, eerst bobine kabel eraf gehaald, heb ik zo alle kleppen kunnen stellen. De borgplaatjes heb ik verwijderd, iets wat ook niet echt noodzakelijk is, maar merkte wel dat je dan makkelijker een slag kunt maken. De motor draait als een naaimachine zonder enig getik, kortom het is heel goed te doen.

vr. gr. Peter

Het zou niet gek zijn wanneer je kleppen een beetje hoort tikken, wanneer je ze niet meer hoort staan ze te krap.

Hallo Drieske,
Bedankt voor de opmerking.
Juist omdat het de eerste keer was heb ik ze wel 3 x gecontroleerd, voordat ik begon stonden er een een aantal te strak, vandaar de extra controle. Dus ze staan wat mij betreft exact afgesteld, 0.10 inlaat en 0-25 uitlaat bij koude motor.

vr.gr. Peter

Heel goed, het zou zo correct moeten zijn. Bij een koude motor de kleppen stellen wordt uitgegaan van een buitentemperatuur van 20 *C, ook dit speelt een rol, hoewel klein. Wanneer de kleppen te krap staan kunnen ze hun warmte niet goed kwijt en zullen ze eerder inbranden ook kan in extreme gevallen de nokkenas wat inslijten.

Hallo Drieske,

Weer bedankt voor het meedenken.
Het was binnen, dus de temperatuur ben ik niet zo bang voor.
Wat ik wel gelezen heb is dat als het 20 gr ONDER nul is dat er dan andere waarden gelden, ik meen dat ze dan ruimer moeten staan, zal hier gelukkig niet voorkomen.

vr.gr. Peter

Ter verduidelijk; zowel met die klauwsleutel Hazet met wringijzer erop:
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Of die lange 17mm Hazet steeksleutel:
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Geen beweging in de te krijgen.

Stelmoer zit niet aan zijn einde en ik moet hem juist een stukje uitdraaien voor het terugstellen van de klepspeling.

Iemand met eenzelfde ervaring?


gr. bram

Bram,

Ik denk als je de clip er uit heb dat je de stelplaatjes wel kunt wisselen, misschien dat je iets moet hebben om de klep iets in te kunnen drukken.
Op de onderstaande foto zie je ze heel goed zitten,
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Ik zal morgen eens in m'n garage kijken, ik heb wat verschillende van die dingen liggen dan stuur ik daar een foto van

Stelmoer even inspuiten met koudemiddel, daarna meteen de lange Hazet 17mm. erop .
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Als de stelmoer echt niet beweegt, dien je de betreffende tuimelaar te verwijderen mbv een hevelgereedschap. Daarna is er ruimte om een normale dop op de stelmoer te zetten en kun je hem losdraaien.

Ik gebruik een speciale op maat gemaakte kraaienpoot. De sleutelmaat is niet helemaal 17mm maar ongeveer 16,9 mm
Ik heb een 16mm kraaienpoot op maat geveild net zo lang tot hij met enige moeite om de moer past.
Helemaal spelingsvrij en je kunt er goed kracht op zetten zonder dat je de moer beschadigt + je komt overal bij

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Normale sleutel 17 met daaronder de kraaienpoot (ligt er niet heelmaal recht op)

25305463195_a72b5b72b0_c.jpg (210.58 KiB)

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Motor M130: Later heb ik een groot verlengstuk gebruikt om meer kracht te zetten

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Motor M110:

50016791086_f449742edb_c.jpg (92.67 KiB)

Kosten kraaienpoot:
9 euro

Ik had indertijd ook precies zo’n gevalletje dat de moer met geen mogelijkheid los te krijgen was. Van alles geprobeerd.
Ik heb er tenslotte gewoon kruipolie op gespoten (geen WD40, maar echter kruipolie). Twee minuten later kon ik ‘m zonder problemen lossen.

Jeroen