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MBKlassiekerclub.nl • Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft : Van alles en nog wat.... - 21
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 16:59
door Ingemar
Dus gaan we een kwart belasting betalen (auto motor en vrachtwagen) plus een dagenkaart krijgen? Ik snap de tekst niet, of is alles weer van de baan.

Lekker trouwens dat de alliantie diesels op 40 jaar willen zetten, wat een rancune.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 17:08
door Tinus60
Wanneer gaan we nu eens den haag platleggen met zijn allen. ;)

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 17:15
door Quinten

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 17:42
door Jurgen
Wat ik niet snap is dat Weekers niet snapt dat hij daar NOOIT 153 miljoen mee kan ophalen.

Dat de handel stil ligt is toch al tekenend genoeg? Als de regeling vervalt zal de oldtimer inzet nou eenmaal afnemen.
Zeker de mensen die het reden omdat het zo goedkoop was, die vallen waarschijnlijk grotendeels af en daar zouden ze het dan juist van moeten hebben als ze aan die 153 miljoen willen komen.



W123 groet,
Jurgen

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 17:48
door MAD
Zoals ik het lees en begrijp is het voorstel van Weekers:

Benzine: tot 30j oud, zelfde MRB als moderne auto's. Na 30j 1/4 MRB en / of 60 dagen kaart

Diesel: tot 40j oud, zelfde MRB als moderne auto's. Na 40j 1/4 MRB en / of 60 dagen kaart

Als dit het gaat worden, dan is de "oldtimermarkt"in mijn ogen kapotbezuinigd zonder dat daar enigszins goed over nagedacht is.

Je hebt het gezien bij "grijskentenkens" die gebruikt werden door slechts een handje vol partikulieren, gebruikmakend van de wet en regelgeving die de overheid zelf ingevoerd heeft, en je wordt daarom gestraft :evil: :evil:

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 17:52
door Jurgen
Aha, dus naast de 40 jaar voor diesels en LPG, en de 30 jaar voor benzines, wil hij er een kwarttarief op hanteren?

En de vrachtwagens en motoren niet ontzien.

Begrijp ik dan goed dat hij het er DAN wel mee eens is?


Jurgen

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 18:33
door Quinten
De Telegraaf:

Oldtimers niet vrijgesteld van motorrijtuigenbelastingAMSTERDAM -
Het 'oldtimersoverleg' tussen staatssecretaris Frans Weekers (Financiën) en vijf brancheverenigingen die eigenaren van oldtimers vertegenwoordigen, is mislukt. De verenigingen, waaronder de ANWB en de Bovag, wilden de oldtimers vrijstellen van motorrijtuigenbelasting als de eigenaar er maar een paar keer per jaar mee de weg op gaat.

Het overleg mislukte volgens de woordvoerster van Weekers omdat het alternatief dat de 'oldtimeralliantie' bood te duur was. De maatregel zoals Weekers die wilde, moest de schatkist 153 miljoen euro opleveren; het voorstel van de brancheverenigingen zou Weekers 126 miljoen euro per jaar kosten. Weekers was wel bereid om mensen die maar een klein aantal dagen per jaar rijden, te ontzien.

Weekers stuurt nu een brief met zeven varianten naar de Tweede Kamer. Bezitters van een oldtimer blijven dus nog even in onzekerheid over de vraag of ze in de toekomst wel of niet motorrijtuigenbelasting moeten betalen voor hun auto.

In het regeerakkoord hadden VVD en PvdA afgesproken om de belastingvrijstelling voor oldtimers te laten vervallen. De Tweede Kamer vreesde dat veel mensen dan gedwongen werden hun 'cultureel erfgoed', waar ze vaak maar weinig kilometers mee rijden, te verkopen. De Kamer vroeg Weekers daarom met alternatieve oplossingen te komen.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 20:12
door Ingemar
Volgens mij is het voor de overheid zeer moeilijk/kostbaar te bepalen wie veel rijdt en niet. Dat kun je ook niet aan een bouwjaar vasthangen.

Dus iedereen laag bedrag belasting betalen en een kilometer restrictie lijkt mij logisch als je geld wil ophalen en "vervuiling" tegengaan. Voor een betaalbaar bedrag doet men de auto immers niet weg.
Even advocaat van de duivel he :devil

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 20:24
door MAD
Ik blijf het zeggen; deze maatregelen hebben niks met "milieu" te maken maar alleen met het binnenhalen van gelden tegen de laagst mogelijke kosten.
Het milieuaspect is alleen erbij gehaald om een wat breder draagvlak in de kamer te krijgen.

Als "milieu" de drijfveer is, dan alle tweetakt scooters verbieden.............................. my two cents

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 20:39
door MajikSimon

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 21:19
door Maikel
Laten we elkaar weer eens lekker de kop gek maken hè :clap: :clap:
Gvd

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 21:21
door 230teee
Een kwart aan mrb is toch helemaal niet zo verkeerd? In het geval van een benzine-auto praat je dan over 2 tot 3 tientjes per maand. Altijd beter dan de volle mep.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 21:26
door Henk Lith
Je oldtimer nu nog verkopen kan je dus wel vergeten.
We zouden hooguit is kunnen kijken hoeveel er in de hofveijver passen, ik denk dat er dan een flinke kop bovenop komt.
Galgenhumor is ook humor toch?
Groet, Henk Lith

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 21:46
door JorisV
Snelle rekensom met mijn LPG coupe is zeker 339eur.
MI zeker niet een te verwaarlozen bedrag zoals Weekers doet voorstellen

En benzine 156 EUR, tot zover het milieu aspect en belasting :pinch:

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 21:56
door 230teee
Voor diesel of LPG is het inderdaad meer dan zuur.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 22:11
door Bob250stijn
@Henk ,

Ja is zeker humor, hoewel je er bijna serieus aan gaat denken die hofvijver, en hoe moet het dan ook verder met jouw onderdelendag ?!

Groet Bob

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 22:49
door Ids
Mocht dit doorgaan is het voor mij einde hobby en gaat tijdens oud en nieuw de fik erin.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 23:05
door Wietse
goed verzekeren dan maar ! en dan in die hofvijver.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 23:07
door Wietse
Laat je niet gekmaken, Het is allemaal politiek , en er komt best een leuke oplossing uit een onverwachte hoek. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 apr 2013, 23:41
door Saw123