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Hoi.

Mijn brandstofpomp heeft lekkage en wel boven op de pomp.
Zitten daar ook ringen in die je kan vervangen .
Is er iemand die me meer kanik vertellen.

ja dat kun je maar moet je wel heel erg mee op passen dat je de plunjers van de pomp niet eruit trekt en dan verkeerd terug doet zit een miniscuul pinnetje als dat niet goed terug in het gleufje komt kun je de pomp wel vergeten .

tja gisteren gezegd dat ik wel wat zou uitleggen voor die ringetjes van de brandstofpomp wartels bij deze dan .heb een pomp gepakt die eraf was straks zitten mijn handen onder de diesel en dat vind de camera niet leuk en dit is makkelijker.
nu is dit ook al een pomp waar ze de boel ook verkeerd hadden vervangen dus wees gewaarschuwd.
je begint met de boel zo goed mogelijk schoon te maken laatste wat je wil is rommel in de pomp gaat die ook van kapot.
ik hoef niet uit te leggen dat dit makkelijker werkt als aan de wagen maar dat zie je dan vanzelf wel.
je haalt die borg plaatjes weg en dan de wartel iets losdraaien en weer schoon maken .
dan draai je dat ding er helemaal uit .zie je een veertje dat pak je ook weg en een koper ringetje dat vis je er ook uit met een tandartshaakje verder moet je niet gaan. rest gewoon laten zitten .
of je moet wel weten wat je aan het doen ben maar dan heb je dit ook niet nodig .dit stukje is tussen de HUH
je kan dat bovenste plunjertje er ook afnemen maar de kans bestaat dat de onderste plakt en dan trek je die ook mee omhoog en daar zit het venijn zit een klein stiftje in de pomp en een gleufje in dat andere ding en als je dat nu niet goed terug zet dan druk je dat zo kapot met vast zetten HUH .
oke dan heb je de ringetjes vervangen en dan draai je de wartel er met de hand weer terug in dat moet gewoon soepel gaan zonder weerstand zet ze aan .
en dan met de moment sleutel 1 keer vast op 30 nm los en vast op 30 dan vast zetten op 35 niet meer dit is gewoon wat het moet hebben niet eigenwijs zijn en door trekken probeer eerst ff voor je gevoel met de moment sleutel in de bankschroef hoe weinig dat is tot de klik .
ja dan weer aan sluiten alles
dit betreft een Mercedes W124 dus voor de duidelijkheid

zo die had ik nog ergens te staan duidelijker zo wel de boel goed schoon maken

hoi Toon,

bedankt, daar heb ik gisterenavond een poosje naar zitten zoeken ,aar dus niet gevonden.
hier kan ik ik wat mee destijds heb ik dat ook gelezen en daar na mijn zwagert de boel vervangen, ging prima.

bij mijn motor ziet er het anders uit maar ik neem aan dat het principe het zelfde is.
als de ringetje er zijn ga ik beginnen met dit klusje.

bedankt voor zover.

hoi,
even een foto van mijn brandstofpomp.
ik neem aan dat ik de zeskant moet losdraaien waar de verstuiverleiding op zit om de ringetjes te vervangen.

de foto is niet van mijn 123 maar van de 126 toen ik aan de motor bezig was.

bij die pomp die je laat zien zijn het die borg plaatjes maar de pomp van de 123 heeft volgens mij hetzelfde als van die foto van mij

hoi,

deze motor zit in mijn 123 de 300 turbodiesel dus mijn situatie is als op de foto.

bedank.

ja dan zijn het die borgplaten los en dan zal je de wartel er zo uit trekken

heb voor de zekerheid ff in het boek gekeken je kunt de wartel er uit draaien zonder de borg platen los te halen

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Hoi,

Bedankt Toon, dat is duidelijk.
Heb inmiddels van een cilinder de twee boutjes los gedraaid en dan komt de complete plunjer er uit ( neem aan dat ie zo heet) daar zit een O ring onder met een diameter van ik denk 2 cm die een afdichting maakt met het smeerolie gedeelte van de pomp.

Het diesel gedeelte zit dan in de afbeelding die jij plaatste, en daar moet ik nog even de goede ringen bij zoeken, zal maandag eens langs gaan bij MB.

Bedankt en fijn weekend.

De moertjes bij zo'n MW-pomp moet je NOOIT losdraaien, want de pompelementen worden gesteld door te draaien, met de moertjes wordt dat vastgezet. Zonder testbank krijg je dat niet goed.

Bij de MW=pomp zit de koperen dichtring onder de drukventieldrager (de drukventieldrager moet op de juiste manier er in worden gezet, let er op als je hem er uit haalt), die kent weer een ander vastzetmoment. De nieuwe ring inleggen, de inspuitleidingaansluiting met olie insmeren en in een keer met 40-50 Nm vastzetten. Dichtring is speciaal, moet je halen bij MB of bij een Bosch-dieselzaak.

Vaak komt de lekkage door een scheefzittende inspuitleiding, die moet niet onder spanning gemonteerd worden. Vastzetmoment 25 Nm.

hoi,

bedankt voor je antwoord, een duidelijk verhaal.
ik heb inmiddels de goede ringen besteld en nu weet ik gelijk het juiste aanhaalmoment.

weet jij toevallig ook hoe ik de demping van de brandstofpomp kan aanpassen, dit zou het boutje met contramoer zijn die aan de achterkant van de brandstofpomp zit.
met de achterkant bedoel ik tussen de pomp en het oliefilter.

ik meen me te herinneren dat ik eens iets gelezen heb over een veer vervangen omdat de ze door de jaren heen zijn kracht verliest en deze veer zou er voor zorgen dat de motor rustiger zou lopen stationair.

hen er twee foto's van gemaakt waar het over gaat.

Er zit inderdaad een dempingsveer om de stationair loop te stabiliseren.

Je hoeft daar alleen wat aan te doen als je motor extreem schudt tijdens stationair loop. Op het onderstaande plaatje kan je zien wat MB er over schrijft. Schudden kan komen door verschil in pompopbrengst per pompelement (dit is alleen te controleren op een testbank bij de Bosch-dienst) of door onvoldoende veerkracht op die dempingsveer.

Er zijn nog wel wat andere oorzaken. Zorg in ieder geval dat de klepspeling is nagekeken voordat je aan de veer gaat draaien. Er zijn wel verhalen dat als je de veer te hard aandraait, dat de motor dan niet wil starten. Dit wordt wel tegengesproken bij MB, daar die wil dat de veer geheel wordt ingedraaid.

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hoi,

bedankt voor je reactie, zal eens verder gaan zoeken ik merk wel iets van een onregelmatige loop bij stationair maar ik denk dat je altijd wel iets voel met een diesel.
en het is alleen maar bij stationair en je moet ten slotte rijden met dat ding.

als ik er wat meer van weet laat ik het weten.

Zo ziet zoń testbank eruit.

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[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
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[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
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[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
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