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MBKlassiekerclub.nl • Apk, stalling, schorsen?? : Algemene vragen over jouw auto - 2
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Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 dec 2013, 19:10
door Coupe280
hulzie .
dat klopt van die kentekenplaten van je vader, maar dat was vooral om gezeur te voorkomen.
van welles nietes waar wij nu nog mee bezig zijn :D
ik haalde vroeger voor de zekerheid ook de kentekenplaten eraf omdat die flitsers niet wisten wanneer openbare weg en wanneer niet.
en omdat iedereen denkt van de belastingdienst verliezen we toch.
maar ook die horen zich aan bepaalde regels te houden

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 dec 2013, 21:07
door Peter77
Wat is de boete dan als je pakken, zonder dat je belasting betaalt en toch lekker doorrijd, hoe groot is de kans als jeje gewoon aan de snelheid houd dat ze je pakken, wordt daar nog veel op gecontroleerd???

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 dec 2013, 21:39
door Hans230CE
In plaats van vele halve waarheden, vraag het eens aan mens met kennis! Een politie agent oid.

Het lijkt me straf dat een oprit geen privaat grond is. Is er in NL niet iets als een rooilijn zoals we het hier hebben, dat is het einde van het privé gedeelte en het begin van de openbare weg.

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 dec 2013, 21:50
door Hulzie
Peter, zolang je op zandweggetjes rijdt zul je weinig last hebben.

Maar......tegenwoordig hangt het hele land vol met ANPR lezers en die geven volautomatisch alles door van de tenaamstellinghouder, het systeem is overal aan gekoppeld, boete's, kenteken, belasting je kan zo gek niet verzinnen wat het niet kan zien, en het volgt je auto, dat kan doordat de lezers elkaar overlappen, zo pakken ze je.

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 00:47
door Coupe280

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 02:05
door MB 250
waarom zou je schorsen,het schorsen kost je ook minimaal 25 euro ,en met de nieuwe regeling betaal je voor een benzine uitvoering maximaal 120 euro mrb
dat heb je toch nog 9 maanden rij plezier,en een apk komt atijd wel een keer ook na het schorsen
mi gaan voor de nieuwe regeling,en lekker 9 maanden genieten van je mb :woohoo:

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 16:25
door wwwW123

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 18:19
door Hans230CE

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 19:56
door Semrick
Als een auto op geschorst op eigen terrein (bijvoorbeeld Oprit, voortuin, carpoort enz) staat dan kan de belastingdienst daar niets aan doen. Ook al is de kentekenplaat zichtbaar. Eigen terrein behoort niet bij de weg.
En daarbij maakt het niets uit of het een eigen woning is of dat deze gehuurd wordt.

Onderstaande tekst komt van de site van de belastingdienst en lijkt me duidelijk. Staat ook meteen bij wat nog wel bij de weg hoort.
Als u van plan bent om uw motor langere tijd niet te gebruiken, kunt u een schorsing van de geldigheid van het kentekenbewijs aanvragen. Die schorsing geldt voor 12 maanden. Tijdens de schorsingsperiode betaalt u geen motorrijtuigenbelasting, maar mag u ook niet op de openbare weg komen met uw auto. Onder de openbare weg vallen ook:
◾paden
◾bermen
◾zijkanten van wegen
◾openbaar toegankelijke parkeerterreinen en parkeergarages

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 22:55
door Hans230CE
.......................... :devil :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 23:05
door Semrick
Zit je ons nu uit te lachen Hans vanuit dat goedkope Belgie? :snooty: :naughty:

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 dec 2013, 23:52
door Hans230CE
Eric, je bent een goeie maat van me, maar JAAAAA :devil :grin :grin :wink :wink :wink Je hebt een aanbod ej :wink :wink

Wat is het hier ook weer??? :blink: 35€ per jaar vanaf 25 jaar :sick: :sick: :devil

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 jan 2014, 18:10
door Merceleek
Nog een keer...... indien je eigen plek directe aansluiting geeft op de openbare weg , zoals dus je oprit ( huur of koop) Dan ben je het haasje.

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 jan 2014, 22:09
door Hans230CE
Dus, NL heeft geen prive opritten meer?



Jongeren, dit kan toch niet waar zijn???? Jullie betalen veel geld voor een huis en je oprit is niet prive?????? Kom op, zoek dit eens goed uit!!!

Re: apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 jan 2014, 23:52
door Coupe280
het is ook niet waar hans!!!!
iedereen die zich er een beetje in verdiept weet dat dat niet kan.
je oprit is gewoon van jezelf(koop of huur).
maar voor de zekerheid kun je wel je platen er afhalen omdat ook controleurs zich wel eens vergissen.


ik heb vanmorgen de belastingdienst gebeld (0800 0749) dus ik zou Cees willen vragen als je ons toch niet geloofd neem dan eens de moeite om te bellen.
ik heb vanmorgen een mevr en haar achterban(expert controleur) aan de telefoon gehad en het verhaal doen hun af als complete onzin die gewoon de wereld ingestuurd word en nagepraat word.
je kan je auto gewoon op je eigen oprit zetten tijdens schorsing, iedereen die anders beweerd neem dan eens de moeite om te bellen.
groet tonnie

Re: Apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 nov 2014, 22:04
door trac
Och och wat een indianenverhalen zeg, zo maak je elkaar wel de kop gek.

Een oprit is gewoon prive terrein, ook al staat je auto maar 1 cm achter je erfgrens en vol in het zicht met alle kentekens opgepoetst en zichtbaar, geen enkel probleem.

Zoals hierboven wordt aangegeven, openbare weg is:
- paden
- bermen
- zijkanten van wegen
- openbaar toegankelijke parkeerterreinen en parkeergarages

Je eigen oprit is niks openbaars aan, daar gaat het om.
Dus gewoon je auto op eigen terrein parkeren en klaar ben je.
Of het nou je voortuin, je oprit of je carport is.

gr. Bram

Re: Apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 nov 2014, 22:23
door Hans230CE
Nou Bram,

om te beginnen zijn we elkaar de kop niet gek aan het maken. Maar bij jullie in NL moet je eigenlijk van niets verschieten. MAAR!!, nu blijkt het hier in B ook zo te zijn dat een wagen op je oprit verzekerd en ingeschreven moet zijn. Niet achter een hek, maar zonder hek of iets dergelijk wel. En ik kan het weten :whistling :whistling

Re: Apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 nov 2014, 22:27
door Semrick
Nou Hans.....Hier in NL is het zelfs zo dat je auto in de afgesloten garage verzekerd en APK-gekeurd moet zijn. Ook al is de auto voor niemand zichtbaar. Zodra er een geldig kenteken is afgegeven is de gene op wiens naam dat kenteken staat aansprakelijk en dient de auto zoals ze dat noemen administratief in orde te zijn.
Enige manier om dat te omzeilen is schorsen van het kenteken. EN dan mag hij weer niet op de openbare weg staan. Wel op de eigen oprit, tuin, erf en dergelijke. En of het kenteken dan zichtbaar is of niet maakt niet uit. Ook niet of de woning of het terrein eigendom of gehuurd is. :lol:

Re: Apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 nov 2014, 00:02
door Weizengelb
Ja en vroeger... Bij ons in de straat woonde een man met een Pontiac Firebird, zal in de jaren 80 geweest zijn,
Die had zijn wagen gewoon op de oprit voor zijn huis staan, maar toen die Volvo van de belastingdienst kwam is hij snel voor de nummerplaat van de auto gaan staan.
De ambtenaren verzochtten hem om aan de kant te gaan zodat zij de foto konden maken en hij trok met alle kracht in zijn armen de nummerplaat van zijn Pontiac :P

Vroeger was het een spelletje, maar mijn idee was ook dat zelfs op je oprit die direct aan de openbare weg was, je vatbaar was voor de controle van de belastingdienst.

Re: Apk, stalling, schorsen??

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 nov 2014, 00:55
door Coupe280
zoals ik al zei( ook een controleur kan zich vergissen).in een eerdere post.
ook vroeger was je niet belastingplichtig op eigen oprit.
en geloof maar dat ik het kan weten in de jaren 80 reed ik in een chevrolet caprice van 1950 kilo.
en wist toen zeker de belastingregels wel :grin: :grin: .
groet tonnie