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MBKlassiekerclub.nl • Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123 : Algemene vragen over jouw auto
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Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 13:20
door Patrick1
Over ongeveer 1 a 2 maanden gaan we ons verdiepen in de aanschaf van een andere Mercedes, als vervanger voor de W126 420SE. De auto moet als woon-werk verkeer ingezet gaan worden, en de W126 heeft iets teveel dorst daarvoor. Daarnaast rot hij aardig weg..

Nu gebruiken we de W126 ook voor de aanhanger. Wat uiteraard perfect gaat.
Als ik de kentekens check van de W123 diesels en de W115 diesels kom is veelal tegen dat de W115 1400kg geremd mag trekken, en de W123 diesels 1500kg mogen trekken.

Welk van deze wagens is volgens jullie meer geschikt als woon-werk verkeer en daarnaast als trekauto? Er hoeft geen caravan 1500 kilometer achter te hangen. Maar een geremde aanhanger voor de stort en spullen halen is wel makkelijk.

De wagen moet in iedergeval 40jaar + zijn en een diesel.
Dat kan zowel bij de W115 als de W123.

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 13:26
door PeDe
Hoi Patrick,

Ik heb 3,5 jaar een W123 gereden met het 'nieuwe' OM617 blok (88 pk) erin gekoppeld aan een automaat.
Vaak genoeg aanhangers mee gereden, geen probleem, trekt ze prima weg, boven de 80 km/h wordt het een ander verhaal uiteraard......

W115 geen ervaring mee, maar die 5 cilinder klinkt met belasting echt mooi hoor, als ik daar aan terugdenk....haha

Succes en plezier! Peter

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 18:48
door Wietse
Veel gereden met 300D zowel W115 als W123 80 pk. de aandrijflijn is het zelfde. een aantal x een Benz op de trailer gehaald ( te zwaar , ik weet het) maar met 80/90 km op de snelweg gaat goed maar dan heb je het wel gehad. Maar verder vaak genoeg een aanhangertje tot 750 kg . prima.
waar ik wel van onder de indruk was zijn de turbo diesels met 125 pk. die wil ik eigenlijk nog wel een x in mijn Benz hangen.

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 18:51
door Wiebren240D
Hoi Patrick

ik ben zelf een W114/115 man.
en heb jaren in een W115/114 gereden dat is een 5 cilinder diesel met een geweldig koppel volgens ingewijden
daar kun je echt mee trekken maar dan wel met een 4 versnelling- bak maar om die nu voor elke dag te gebruiken is denk ik niet verstandig.
zoek maar een gave die zijn er niet meer ik heb de mijne nog wel maar die heeft het nodige mee gemaakt word een project auto komt met de tijd wel weer op de weg hoop ik.
maar een W123 in de zelfde versie is ook een goeie optie is wat wind gevoeliger dan de W115/114 en de aandrijf delen zijn van mindere kwaliteit

ik wens je suc6 met je keuze
met de groeten van Wiebren ut Snits telnr 0620659789 en nee heb nog geen Wattshapp

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 19:07
door Patrick1
Bedankt voor de antwoorden!

Het trekken van 'normale gewichten moet dus kunnen :-)
Als ik het goed begrijp is de bouwkwaliteit van de W115 beter dan die van de W123?
Is dit verder nog in rijgedrag en onderhoud te merken?

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 19:29
door PeDe
Ik denk dat het verschil in rijgedrag tussen de W115 en W123 relatief klein is.
Zeker in vergelijk met de W124, dat was op dat gebied echt een flinke stap vooruit.

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 21:10
door Weizengelb
Hoi Allemaal,

DeW114/115 heeft nog een echte voor-as op een subframe. Bij de W123 is de wielophanging deel voor deel gewoon aan de carosserie vastgeschroefd. Heeft zn voordelen als je een zware aanrijding hebt maar is verder misschien wat minder vanzelfsprekend stabiel.

Laatst met de W124 300D de W115 ophalen ging in principe goed maar veel fut zat er niet meer in :):

Heb ook wel eens een W110 opgehaald met een W115 200D als trekwagen. Met geduld gaat het allemaal maar snel gaat dat niet.

Dus alles kan maar hoe meer vermogen hoe makkelijker natuurlijk.

Groeten, Math

PS dit was de sterke 200D trekker van destijds (Zware trekhaak en servobesturing :handgestures-thumbup: )
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Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 22:51
door Hans230CE
Hier had een aannemer een W123/300D en die heb ik ooit gepakt met 2400KG!!! achter op de trekhaak. Ging goed volgens hem prima. Maarja dat zei die kerel ook die die met een R5 camionet en aanhanger 4.2T !!! totaalgewicht had en 1 remcircuit defect had. :woohoo: :woohoo:

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 feb 2018, 23:07
door PeDe

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 feb 2018, 07:45
door Patrick1
Die ouwe bakken zijn zo te lezen allemaal al een flink op de proef gesteld :grin:
We gaan denk ik zowel in de W123 als de W115 proefrijden, maar zo op het eerste gezicht lijkt de W115 de meer geschikte
kandidaat te zijn.

Al is de 5 cilinder denk ik boven budget. Veel W115’s hebben de 4 cilinder 200D voorin liggen. We hopen voor €2800-3600 ongeveer te slagen. Uiteraard heb ik al wat rondgekeken, en dat zou moeten lukken.

Re: Trek-eigenschappen W115 vs W123

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 feb 2018, 23:25
door MB280E
Je kan nog altijd een turbo bij plaatsen voor meer trekkracht. Rookt wel een beetje.... :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10KUKIYWAIk