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blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 04 jul 2022, 19:05

hallo alle
ik wil graag weten hoe de blauwe kleur op een krukas ontstaat
zelf schiet me door de kop ,heet gelopen ,is er ook een andere oorzaak hiervoor
betreft om617 bj 86
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 05 jul 2022, 07:42

Het is niet alleen blauw, maar naar de randen heb je de hele regenboog. Die regenboog ontstaat inderdaad door hitte.

Maar aan die inbusbout (steun oliepomp?) te zien is er al vaker aan gesleuteld. Wellicht zijn die lagerkappen al ooit los geweest?
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 05 jul 2022, 10:08

DSCN7984.JPGja effe voorstellen
ik ben henry .
ben bezig met een om617.913 blok ,daze heb ik ingebouwd in een mb 406 bj 72
om iets beter met het verkeer mee te kunnen komen .
dus van om615 naar om617.
heb dit blok gekocht in 2019 als zijnde gebruikt, daarna ingebouwd in de 406d
heb toen niet de olie pan kunnen verwijderen ,maar toen ik het wel kon zag ik al de blauwe kleur
wat me nogal liet schrikken .zag toen ook al de inbus van de olie pomp en dacht ook dat er al wat
aan gebeurt was ,in verband met de blauwe kleur (WARMTELOPER)(OLIE TEKORT)dat is wat me door de kop schoot.
maar na de drijfstangen axiaal gevoeld te hebben op speling ,viel me op dat cil.1 aardig wat speling had ten opzichte van cilinder 2,toen begon het twijfelen of de eventuele reparatie wel professioneel was uitgevoerd.
heb inmiddels meerdere krukassen gezien met een blauwe kleur ,dus vraag ik me af ,hoe ontstaat die
blauwe kleur ,hoewel de krukas goed is en toch een blauwe kleur heeft.
ik heb geen hand boek dus weet niet de max axiale speling van de drijfstangen,
foto om617 ingebouwd in de 406
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor Wietse » 05 jul 2022, 12:50

je hebt het over een 617 blok, maar ik zie er 615 staan op dat onderdeel.
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 05 jul 2022, 13:20

ja wietse dat schijnen de originele nr te zijn ook voor 617.
hebben dezelfde krukassen dan de 615 maar dan 1 cilinder meer
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 07 jul 2022, 08:44

Hoi Henry,

Wellicht ontstaat die blauwe kleur al bij het harden af fabriek?

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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 07 jul 2022, 14:46

hallo math

daar ben ik inmiddels ook achter dat het wel eens te maken kan hebben met het harden van de krukas,
ik heb inmiddels een pdf gezien waar dat in vermeld stond.
als het een warmteloper was geweest ,dan is het niet gebeurt met de huidige drijfstang lijkt me
anders had die op z,n minst ook iets van blauw moeten zijn
ik wou de pdf hier downloaden maar hij pakt hem niet.
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 07 jul 2022, 14:52

dan maar zo effe een foto uit de pdf gemaakt
met uitleg over het harden
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 12 jul 2022, 09:07

Het zou kunnen dat ze daar blauw van zijn, maar volgens mij is het de bedoeling dat ze na dat harden ook gebeitst worden om juist die blauwe kleur weer weg te halen.
Het is vanaf daar een kleine moeite om die lagerkap er af te halen en het witmetaal in die lagerschaal eens te bekijken. Wellicht kun je zelfs met wat moeite de radiale speling meten, al zal dat niet meevallen. Eigenlijk moet je de diameter van de kruktap met de diameter van hat samengebouwd lager meten en vergelijken.
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Re: blauw op de krukas

Berichtdoor MB 406 d » 13 jul 2022, 09:56

jantje bedankt voor je reactie
ze zullen het beitsen wel voor lief hebben genomen.
volgens RD500 waren de lager schalen nog wel goed radiaal ,anders was dat wel te horen geweest
mij ging het om de axiale speling ,en daar waren de toleranties nog binnen de grenzen zie topic axiale speling
ik ben bezig het spul weer in elkaar te zetten ,want ik heb er nog geen meter mee gereden .
ik was alleen geschrokken van de blauwe kleur vandaar de twijfel.
ik durf de gok nu wel te nemen want er was schijnbaar al aan gesleuteld
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