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Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 29 jul 2019, 13:01

Beste collega liefhebbers, ik heb een W123 met het vacuüm systeem voor airco ccp vergrendeling enz.
Dit systeem werkt niet best meer, en ik ben begonnen om het te repareren. Ik zoek iemand die mij hierbij wil en kan helpen, dit hoeft niet voor niets. De auto moet binnenkort de weg ivm met werk verder weg. Om dit alleen te doen en eerst de juiste kenners op te doen gaat te lang duren.
Wie wil en kan me helpen. Maar niet uit waarmee, kennis en daadwerkelijk sleutelen zou helemaal super zijn.
Ik woon in de omgeving Breda en heb een plek om te sleutelen.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor MBreed » 30 jul 2019, 10:34

Vacuümsysteem van de climate control? Zoals deze:

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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 30 jul 2019, 14:49

Jap, dat is hem
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor MBreed » 30 jul 2019, 15:01

Ik wil je niet ontmoedigen, maar als er in het climate control systeem iets stuk is wordt het echt een k. klus. Er zijn maar weinig mensen die zich hierin verdiept hebben, de meesten beginnen er niet eens aan. Een vacuüm lek in het systeem kan je nog meten, maar overige problemen worden een drama. Een lek in de centrale vergrendeling is niet zo ingewikkeld op te lossen. Het is vooral rustig een voor een zaken uitsluiten. Breda is voor mij helaas te ver uit de buurt, anders had ik best eens langs willen komen met mijn vacuümmeter.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Hethan » 30 jul 2019, 16:49

Hallo Add,
ik ben net zelf voor t eerst bezig met vacuumsysteem, maar enkel voor cv: gelukkig geen airco!
Heb daar van mcbreed hulp bijgehad.Zelf voor 17 euro vacuummeter met toebehoren gekocht en getest.
Werkt goed!
Verder is er wat te vinden op fixit.nl, maar enkel basic mgt cv.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 30 jul 2019, 20:04

Dat klinkt niet hoop gevend, in eerste instantie is het de bedoeling het vacuüm systeem te herstellen, de airco kan dan nadien, dit zit onder de motor kap. Het dashboard kan er dan terug in en kan ik igg rijden.
Ps omgeving Breda is eens leuk om te bezoeken hoor :lol:
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Jeroen » 31 jul 2019, 08:06

Hi Add,
kun je wat specifieker zijn met wat er precies mis is met het vacuum systeem. De meeste problemen komen doordat er ergens lekkage ontstaat. Vaak op de pneumatische zuigertjes. Een scheurtje in het rubbertje en je hebt al een probleem.

Als je de motor start wordt er dan überhaupt vacuum opgebouwd, loopt het snel weg? Of is er iets anders aan de hand?

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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 31 jul 2019, 21:28

Jeroen,
De bediening van het ventilatie systeem gaat niet goed, krijg niet uit alle ventilatie mogelijkheden lucht.
Wel de motor loopt heb ik vacuum, als hij stilstaat word het langzaam minder.
Er is ergens een lek en die potjes doen het na mijn idee niet allemaal, of de knoppen doen het niet meer.
Dashboard heb ik gedemonteerd, en toen werd het wel lastig voor me, zonder enige kennis van dit systeem.
Ik had de tijd, maar heb een andere baan ene ik de auto binnenkort op de weg hebben.
Vandaar de hulp vraag.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Govert » 03 aug 2019, 22:59

Al de vacuümsystemen staan overigens uitgebreid beschreven, inclusief diagnosemethoden, in de WIS.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 07 aug 2019, 12:01

Hoi Govert,bedankt voor je info, het wis kan ik nog ergens kopen?
Ik had een beetje gehoopt op iemand die met dit systeem ervaring heeft en mij een dag zou willen helpen (niet gratis).
Blijkt toch een lastig geheel, of misschien net die mensen op vakantie, dat kan ook.
Maar misschien wel iemand die weet waar ik de slangetjes en koppeling kan halen?

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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Govert » 09 aug 2019, 21:09

Op de MB-site in de USA staat het online: https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/out ... _77_3d.htm beetje lastig te benaderen omdat het Flash gebruikt, waar meerdere browsers moeilijk over doen.
Verder wordt de Duitse WIS wel hier en daar aangeboden en het is ook (duur) beschikbaar bij MB zelf.

Onderdelen zou ik eerst proberen bij de dealer, als het te duur of niet beschikbaar is, kijken of er een alternatief is. In de VS zijn de systemen veel geleverd, daar is vaak ook van alles te koop.

Ervaring heb ik niet met het systeem.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

Berichtdoor Ad66 » 18 aug 2019, 19:45

Govert, bedankt voor de info, ga ik daar eens induiken.
Iemand met ervaring lijkt niet te bestaan, haha, misschien was hij/zij op vakantie.
Ik geef de moet nog niet op.
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Re: Hulp gezocht vacuüm systeem

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