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De W115 heeft nog last van een hardnekkig probleempje.
Vanaf de aankoop brand het lampje van de rem. (linker lampje naast het benzine lampje)
Ook de tank inhoudsmeter doet het niet.

Ik ben al op onderzoek gegaan:

Remlampje:

Remvloeistof gecheckt, en contactpunten na gekeken.
handrem schakelaar gedemonteerd en doorgemeten.
Ook gecheckt of de handrem netjes de schakelaar indrukt als deze los is. Dat doet hij allemaal netjes.
Alle stekkers nagekeken in dit systeem. Lijkt allemaal goed.
Toen was ik het even zat, gewoon lampje eruit gehaald. Toen deed ook meteen de motortemp het niet meer
lampje erin en hij doet het weer..

Tankvlotter:

Tankvlotter gedemonteerd, deze hoor ik netjes rustig heen en weer glijden in de tankvlotterpijp.
lijkt prima.

Nu heb ik het gevoel dat als deze vreemde dingen met elkaar te maken hebben. Kan dit een massa probleem zijn, of iets anders?

Vanavond de tellerbak eruit gehaald.
1 stekker was niet aangesloten? hoort dit? zie foto 1
Ook lag er nog een andere stekker los achter. waar is deze van? foto 2
De rest van de foto's is gewoon van de achterkant van de tellerbak. Niks aan te zien eigenlijk, alle soldeerpunten zien er prima uit.

Hebben jullie tips?

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Mijn idee is dat de stekker van foto 2 in die van foto 1 hoort, tenzij stekker van foto 2 een speaker stekker is voor aansluiten op de radio.

Foto 1 is vrij onduidelijk, maar dat is een mannetje
Daar hoort een vrouwtje op. Is dit massa? Of heeft deze een andere functie?

Foto 2 lijkt mogelijk iets van de radio, maar die zit er niet in

op foto 1 hoort dacht ik een massa draadje, foto 2 heeft niks met je tellers te maken, en dat je tankmeter schommelt, vooral als die richting leeg gaat , is normaal. Dat hebben ze allemaal. Hoe leger de tank hoe slechter die weergeeft.
En als die helemaal niks doet dan is er geen contact ergens.

Morgen of overmorgen verder op onderzoek.
Aan de stekker ga ik een massadraad verbinden om te kijken of het dan is opgelost.

Ales de stekker van de remvloeistof en handrem eruit getrokken zijn, brand hij nog steeds. dus waarschijnlijk krijgt hij inderdaad massa via een minder officiele weg.

Hoeveel weerstand moet de tankvlotter geven?
Mocht het probleem nog niet opgelost zijn dan zal ik eens controleren of het lampje van de remmen blijft branden als de stekker van de vlotter eraf is.

Achtergrond info: de tankmeter reageert nu helemaal niet, zelfs niet met volle tank.

Met een beetje geluk is het een simpel massa probleempje, want de tellerbak ziet er prima uit van binnen.

Update volgt!

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Volgens mij hoort het rem lampje te branden bij het los halen van de stekker als fail save veiligheid

En voor dat je extra massa gaat aan leggen kijk en meet eerst of dit pootje geen plus contact is
De massa komt volgens mij namelijk van af de stalen plaat voor dit lichtje
Ik ben nog geen /8 tegen gekomen waar dit pootje aangesloten is

Tankmeter kan je uit de tank halen en na meten 1 contact is een reserve melding en een ander is de meter
Als de meter uit de tank ligt kan je deze vloeistof niveau stimuleren door hem rustig heen en weer te bewegen
Als je de vlotter uit elkaar haalt Bedenk wel ff dat de vlotter er met een paar hele dunne en kwetsbare draden in de buis gemonteerd zit welke heel makkelijk breken

Succes gr Pascal

Ik dacht dat de massa een zwart draadje was met een " rond mannetje"steekverbinding. die steek je in een gaatje op de tellerunit. en de andere is de + veel meer zit er niet op qua bedrading. 2 stuks.? of je moet iets mhebben met cruise control ?

Vanavond een tijdje geknutseld om van de elektra-problemen af te komen. Helaas nog zonder resultaat.
Ik heb een aardeverbinding aangelegd vanaf het lege mannetje naar het chassis.
Verder de boel gewoon weer terug gebouwd.

Helaas bleef het remlampje nog steeds branden en deed de tankmeter het ook niet.

De stekker van de tankvlotter af gehaald, remlampje blijft dan nog branden.
Weerstand op de pennen van de tankvlotter gemeten. Die geven oneindige weerstand.
In de stekker van de tankvlotter gemeten: die geeft 0,07-0,08 ohm weerstand.
Dit wanneer de meter op 20K staat ingesteld.

Dan ligt er nog 1 draad los vanaf de zekeringsbak. Zie foto.
Dit is een rood-groene draad. Die is nergens op aangesloten. Weet iemand waar die van

Ook de verlichting van de tellerbak werkt niet

Verder zie ik weinig verrassingen.

Weet iemand welk circuit het remlampje maakt? er zitten volgens mij geen sensors in de remmen?

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Rem lampje zit voor de handrem dat deze actief is en dat het remolie niveau te laag is in 1 van de beide reservoirs

Handrem is een schakelaar die volgens mij nc geschakeld is

De rem olie niveau schakelaar is een vlotter schakeling

Verlichting kan de potmeter zijn die defect is

Ik denk dat het losse draadje van een naderhand ingebouwde accessoire is geweest
Het einde er van komt mij origineel niet bekend voor namelijk

de zekering is een oud soort zekering houder voor een autoradio , heb je de remlicht schakelaar al los gehad bij het pedaal van de handrem??

De handremschakelaar die wordt ingedrukt door de voetrem is al los geweest. Dit was 1 de eerste dingen die ik gecheckt heb. Ook het remreservoir en de stekkers ervan zijn nagekeken. Er zit denk ik weinig anders op dan het hele circuit te volgen.

Bedankt voor deze heldere uitleg.
Meten is gelukkig heel makkelijk, omdat de vlotter onder een kunstof kapje in de kofferbakruimte zit.

Kapje eraf en meten maar.

Gister heb ik op de vlotter zelf alle mogelijke combinatie's van metingen tussen de pennen onderling op weerstand gedaan, en alle uitkomsten waren oneindige weerstand.
Nu stond de meter ingesteld op 20K die zal ik nog wat hoger instellen, gezien je schrijft dat hij met een volle tank wel 75ohm kan zijn.

Als elke combinatie van metingen een oneindige weerstand geeft, is de zender defect
De meter instellen op een lagere waarde zal geen invloed op die uitkomst hebben.
Met de meter op 20K heb je de meter ingesteld om 20.000 ohm maximaal te kunnen meten.
De meter hoog instellen als je de waarde niet kent is goed, je kunt de meter lager, gevoeliger instellen als je de waarde kent, en de schaal van de meter daarop aanpassen. In dit geval zou 200ohm (op mijn meter) de gewenste instelling zijn.

Je haalt buiten het plastic kapje toch ook de stekker van de zender af, voordat je de weerstnd van de zender meet?

Gisteren weer bezig geweest om de tankvlotter door te meten.
(daarbij gaat de stekker er zeker af )
De weerstand nogmaals geprobeerd te meten, maar helaas zonder resultaat. alles geeft oneindig aan. Prima, weet ik dat die stuk is. Die is nog wel te krijgen via de sloop.

Gisteren ook nog een hoera momentje gehad!!
Het lampje van de remmen is opgelost Na de hele draad gevolgd te hebben zonder wat te vinden, heb ik de stekker achterop de tellerbak open gemaakt. En TADAAA Daar was 1 draadje losgebroken van zijn busje.
Ik wist niet of deze iets met de rem te maken had, maar het is sowieso niet goed.
Busje met de crème brullee brander leeg geblazen, en het draadje er weer ingesoldeert.
Na de test was het lampje uit

de sigaretten aansteker doet het ook nog niet, alles doorgemeten, en dit zit hem in het kapotte 'uitneembare' gedeelte om de sigaret mee aan te steken. Die zit helemaal vast en het ziet er niet goed uit.

Ook de tellerbak verlichting doet het nog niet, Ondertussen gevonden dat de dimmer niet werkt. je ziet het veertje opgefrommeld in de dimmer zitten. Dus deze nog repareren.

Ook de 2 glasvezel verlichtingspuntjes achter de snelheidsmeter doen het nog niet, maar ik heb nog niet kunnen vinden waar deze heen gaan. Mocht iemand weten waar het centrale punt voor deze glasvezel verlichting zit, dan hoor ik het graag De speaker in het dashboard er al uitgehad, maar dan zie je hem nog niet, en het ondergedeelte van de middenconsole is eruit geweest, maar ook daar zag ik hem niet zitten.

Iedereen tot dusver bedankt voor het meedenken!

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Mooi dat je een paar storing verholpen hebt

Sigaretten stekker wil ook nog Wel versmeren op de contactpunten een beetje rommelen met de asbak en soms vind je dan de perfecte spot waar je wel stroom krijgt

De glasvezel verlichting komt van je dashboard dat ene lampje waar je de massa op wou zetten en lopen naar je kachel bediening

Vanavond aan de tellerbak verlichting bezig geweest, en ik ben er helaas nog niet.
Dimmer eraf gehaald en de 2 pennen met elkaar door verbonden. Dit moet geen probleem zijn, maar helaas werkt nu helemaal geen binnen verlichting meer. Ook niet van de schakelpook.
Hij maakt ergens sluiting. Zodra ik de verlichting aanzet springt de zekering, ook een 16amp springt direct.
Ik ben benieuwd waar dit weer aan ligt.