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motorkap

Alles omtrent de carrosserie en de buitenkant, zoals bijv. spuiten, roest, plaatwerk, lassen maar ook spiegels, rubbers en chroom, ruitenwissers etc.

motorkap

Berichtdoor patrickjacobs » 06 mei 2016, 17:07

weet iemand op het forum hoe men de motorkap in de hoogte kan regelen niet vooraan met de rubbers link en rechts.
maar bovenaan bijna tegen de voorruit voor de verlucht roosters.

alvast bedankt
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 06 mei 2016, 17:22

Hallo,

De hoogte van de motorkap is af te stellen door de scharnierboutjes aan de motorkap los te draaien en de motorkap in de gewenste hoogte te trekken / duwen. Wanneer je de boutjes niet té los draait kun je de hoogte instellen wanneer de kap dicht zit, voorop gesteld dat de kap te hoog ligt. Anders bij gesloten kap kijken welke kant je de kap op moet stellen. Vervolgens de kap openen en de stand van de scharnieren met bijvoorbeeld een potloodstreep markeren aan de andere kant van waarheen de kap moet gaan. Zodoende kun je altijd zien hoever je de kap versteld hebt. Dit aftekenen / markeren is niet altijd nodig maar wel een handig hulpmiddel vindt ik.
Bij dit werk geldt wel, kleine stapjes geven het snelste resultaat, mede omdat je moeilijk kunt inschatten hoever je het een en ander moet verstellen. Dit weer omdat je "horizontaal" het probleem bekijkt en vervolgens de verstelling min of meer "verticaal" moet uitvoeren.

Wanneer de kap op de hoeken wel goed ligt maar in het midden, ter hoogte van het paravaanrooster (verluchtingsrooster) dan betekent dit dat de kap zelf waarschijnlijk krom is. Dit is waarschijnlijker dan een kromme paravaan alhoewel dit ook niet onmogelijk is. Vaak weet je de geschiedenis van de wagen niet dus niets is onmogelijk, toch? Is de kap krom dan wordt het afstellen het bijbuigen van de motorkap en dat is wel een moeilijker klusje.


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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor patrickjacobs » 06 mei 2016, 17:50

alvast bedankt voor de reactie pieter ik volg uw redenering volledig. Maar ik denk dat ik mij slecht uitdruk. ik bedoel niet naar voor of naar achter maar van boven naar onder in de rechter hoek van de motorkap als ge ervoor staat.
is dit soms niet te stellen met de scharnier zelf ik heb gezien dat daar een soort van clip op zit met daaronder allemaal
tandjes die in een cilinder zit met tandjes rondom zoals het stuur en de stuurkolom ?? (nog een rijmpje bovenop) :)
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 06 mei 2016, 18:06

Goedenavond,

Je kunt het scharnier ten opzichte van de motorkap óók in de hoogte verstellen. Dat zou geen probleem moeten zijn.
Probeer maar eens dan zul je dat vanzelf ervaren. Wat misschien in eerste instantie handig is, is om de voorste schroef alleen maar iets los te draaien en de achterste schroef wel losser te draaien.Op die manier fungeert de voorste schroef als draaipunt en kun je het verstellen wat beter in de hand houden.. Wanneer de kap op de juiste hoogte zit dan de achterste schroef vast(er) draaien en de voorste schroef los(ser) en het scharnier evenwijdig net de kap zetten.
Klaar is Kees (of Patrick hahaha).

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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 06 mei 2016, 19:07

Mogelijk bedoel je de pal die aan het scharnier zit.
Je drukt hem in zodat hij achter het scharnier valt met het omhoog drukken van de kap.
Het zou kunnen dat je dit aan beide zijde moet doen alvorens hij bijna tegen de ruit komt.
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 06 mei 2016, 19:27

Hallo,

Zo heb ik het nog niet bekeken, zou ook goed kunnen dat Patrick dit bedoeld. Goed gezien. Laten we hopen dat het zo lukt.

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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor patrickjacobs » 06 mei 2016, 19:41

bedankt iedereen ik zal dat morgen eens proberen. ik laat daarna wel weten of het gelukt is of dat ik nog op een andere
manier tot resultaat kom.
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor patrickjacobs » 08 mei 2016, 18:55

ge had gelijk pieter men kan de motorkap ook in de hoogte afregelen met de 2 vijsjes aan de zijkant.
had deze een beetje losgezet en kon dan de motorkap naar beneden duwen op gelijke hoogte van de vleugel ,daarna eens geprobeerd met vijzen vast kon de motorkap dan niet naar beneden duwen.
dus vijzen terug los en met twee man de kap meer op het scharnier gedrukt vijzen vast.
alles nu perfect even hoog.
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Ralph » 22 okt 2017, 12:46

Hallo ben hier even aan het zoeken geweest
Maar kan de juiste oplassing niet vinden

Mijn motorkap van de W123 zit lager dan de paravan
Op de schanieren waar die m6 boutjes inzitten krijg ik hem zover niet omhoog geplaats
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 22 okt 2017, 23:22

Het is een beetje prutsen tussen de scharnieren, het slot en de "pootjes" aan de voorkant.Als alles originele MB onderdelen zijn valt het wel bij te regelen. Suc6
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 23 okt 2017, 10:03

Hallo Ralph,

Normaal gesproken hebben de M6 schroeven genoeg ruimte in de scharnieren om een aanwezig hoogteverschil te kunnen uitvlakken. Wanneer bij jou de motorkap lager ligt dan de paravaan dan heb ik een volgende vraag. Ligt de motorkap over de volledige breedte van de kap te laag of bijvoorbeeld alleen bij de uiteinden / scharnieren en is de hoogte in het midden (bij de ruitenwissers?) wél goed. Dit kan natuurlijk ook andersom. Wanneer iets dergelijks aan de hand is dan zit óf je paravaan niet goed (ligt niet voor de hand) óf je motorkap is vervormd (te plat of te bol). Het laatste heb ik al enige malen mogen ervaren. Mijn persoonlijke ervaring is dat imitatie motorkappen hier wel eens wat afwijkingen willen vertonen.
Enige foto's maken veel duidelijk ;) ;)

Mocht alles op het gebied van de vorm / bolling wel goed zijn dan zijn er denk ik in ieder geval nog twee redelijk eenvoudige andere oplossingen.
A: de sleufgaten in de scharnieren uit vijlen (breder maken) zodat de motorkap verder omhoog gehaald kan worden.
B: de scharnieren kunnen zijn verbogen / hebben niet meer de juiste vorm. Vergelijken met andere scharnieren, vorm herstellen en weer monteren. Of andere scharnieren monteren.


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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Ralph » 24 okt 2017, 13:13

Hallo pieter
Motor kapligt over de gehele lengte telaag
Uitvijlen had ik ook gedacht maar het schanier ligt in een omgezet stuk dus kan hem ook niet omhoog trekken
Hellaas kan ik geen foto.s plaatsen
Ze heeft er volgens de foto.s wel recht opgelegen
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Re: motorkap

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Ga ik nog maar een kijken
Gaten uitvijlen gaat ook.niet aangezien de schanier in een opgezeten zijn
Heeft een volgen foto.s wel goed op gezeten
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor BertMercedes » 24 okt 2017, 21:15

In plaats van de gaten in de scharnieren kun je ook de gaten in de motorkap uitvijlen.
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Re: motorkap

Berichtdoor Ralph » 25 okt 2017, 08:40

Dat zou kunnen maar dan moet k het versteveging randje ook weg slijpen want daar zit de schanier nu tegen aan
En veer kan je dat gat in de kap ook niet groter maken
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