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Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft : Van alles en nog wat.... - 8

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Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Dit is de plek waar over van alles en nog wat gepraat kan worden.

Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Tjeerd1992 » 06 nov 2012, 10:58

Toch nog even zeuren over die 60-dagen kaart, ;)
Dat is de oplossing. Dit kan misschien elektronisch, je hebt daar bijvoorbeeld een programma of site voor op de computer of mobiel, waar je kan inloggen. Dit doe je een dag van tevoren.
Een echt liefhebber weet wanneer hij gaat rijden of wanneer hij bijvoorbeeld met de club gaat toeren, noem maar op.

De politie kan zien wie er dan wel inlogt. Nu kunnen ze meer gaan controleren omdat er inderdaad veel meer oldtimers rijden. Op deze manier worden goedkoop rijdende bestuurders geweerd.

Het is dan wel de bedoeling dat de boetes van een flink hoog tarief zijn. Iets van €350 per keer dat je gesnapt wordt, dat doet niemand meer. Geen enkele niet-liefhebber zal het dan nog in zn hoofd halen om een ijzersterke mb voor de goedkoop te gaan rijden. Alleen de liefhebbers blijven dan bestaan en is het probleem opgelost, zowel het gezeik hierover, geldproblemen en het zogenaamde milieuprobleem (wat niet bestaat, ook flauwekul).

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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Staespieter » 06 nov 2012, 11:32

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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Staespieter » 06 nov 2012, 11:35

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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor DMC » 06 nov 2012, 12:27

mensen op de maan ? daar wonen toch maanmannetjes !? :mrgreen:
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor SiGG » 06 nov 2012, 14:08

en maanvrouwtjes he! :D
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Ingemar » 06 nov 2012, 14:46

Alhoewel de maan geen Nederlands grondgebied is... dit is ook een oldtimer! Hij staat nog steeds op de maan! :lol:
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor MajikSimon » 06 nov 2012, 14:54

Waarom moeten we in NL altijd roomser dan de paus zijn?
Maf vind ik dat.

Die mercedessen van ons zijn zo duurzaam dat heus nog wel doorgaan met rijden, waar dan ook.
En de wind komt overal.
De elektrische auto's ik heb er vooralsnog heel erg veel bedenkingen bij. Ze maken je ook afhankelijk van het lichtnet, maar wellicht is dat ook de bedoeling, dan kan de overheid daar ook weer nog meer belastingen over heffen.
Maar ja imago en beeldvorming is alles he en gevallen als Samsom bewegen zich voort in een prius ding.

Die akkus zijn ontworpen voor ca 150.000 km. Als ze vervangen worden is er weer ca 40-50% extra vervuiling.
Wat nou duurzaam? Enorme vervuiling bij produktie akku's. Wat nou duurzaam?
In een recente real life test bij radar doet een Ampera 1 op 16 op benzine plus 83 km elektrisch als
meest belovende auto. Nou ik ben niet onder de indruk. ik rij vaak stukken van 200 km, ik heb niks aan zo'n flutwagentje. Als de politiek correcte kant met modder gooit kunnen wij dat ook natuurlijk.

http://www.lowtechmagazine.be/2012/10/l ... -auto.html

http://www.duurzaamnieuws.nl/bericht.rxml?id=90552
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Ingemar » 06 nov 2012, 15:00

interessante artikelen majiksimon

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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Brinta » 06 nov 2012, 15:55

Erg spannend hoe deze kwestie zich gaat ontwikkelen ; de soep wordt immers niet zo heet gegeten als zij wordt opgedient
Wanneer ik sommige reacties lees vraag ik me af of ik wel n liefhebber ben ; ik rij elke dag ,op LPG ,restaureren interesseerd me niet ,ik vind t gewoon heerlijk om voor weinig in n dikke wagen te rijden ,ben boerenknecht dus veel modder , heb mn rubbers afgetaped maar heb ook nieuwe conti s voor en veren achter laten zetten , tevens vind ik t welhaast een erotisch genoegen mn wagen te besturen .
Hoe het ook zij ,hoe t uit gaat pakken ,ik denk dat ik goede papieren heb ;wagen is bijna 35, LPG,en nederlands
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Heino280CE » 06 nov 2012, 16:21

Hopelijk snapt overheid dat LPG veel schoner is dan diesel.
Verder hoop ik op een datum grens van 1985 ?
Verder hoop ik op pardon regeling.....
Verder hoop ik op compensatie mocht er een nieuwe regeling komen.
Verder hoop ik op indien dan km belasting bijv. boven 5000km wordt auto belast ?
Verder hoop ik op een spoedige val van dit diefstal kabinet. :angry:
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Edwin1966 » 06 nov 2012, 16:50

Heino.......er is altijd hoop!!
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Aliantjuh » 06 nov 2012, 21:50

wie weet trouwens wanneer deze regel ingevoerd word?
anders is het maar afwachten met dit ellendige kabinet
1 op 9 maar rijden als een koning :)
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Jinx » 06 nov 2012, 23:07

Nooit!
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Thilant » 07 nov 2012, 00:13

Beste Benzers,
Ik ben in het bezit van 230E 1982 een 300TDT 1984 en een 300TD 1985.
Allen originele NL auto's en al vele jaren in mijn bezit zolang, dat er destijds helemaal geen sprake was van milieuvervuiling.
Deze Benzen zijn destijds door mij bedrijfsmatig gebruikt en heb er ook vele jaren MRB voor betaalt.
Dat was in de goede tijd , nu met AOW en klein pensioen kan ik ze met veel pijn en moeite op de weg houden door de vrijstelling van MRB.
De twee diesels heb ik destijds bedrijfsmatig aangeschaft en niet met de gedachte later goedkoop te kunnen rijden.
Ook ik zou dus door genoemde maatregelen gedupeerd zijn en dat zou einde hobby worden.
Ik zie in dit forum serieuze en zinnige reacties voorbij komen maar helaas ook een hoop onzin praat.
We zullen moeten afwachten wat het gaat worden , maar tussentijds kunnen we wel actie ondernemen KNAC petitie ondertekenen , e-mail naar Nepperus en andere Tweede Kamerleden , geen scheldpartijen maar serieuze onderbouwde mails.
Wanneer komende tijd mocht blijken dat dit geen enkel effect heeft MOET HET TOCH MOGELIJK ZIJN met het grote aantal Oldtimer bezitters meerdere malen PROTEST-RITTEN te houden naar Den Haag, het Regeringscentrum en omstreken eens flink te ontregelen.
Dit meerdere malen op doordeweekse dagen voor optimaal effect. Dit moet in overleg met alle Oldtimer-clubs en liefhebbers toch mogelijk zijn.
Het enige probleem wat ik voorzie is, dat de ervaring heeft geleerd ,hoever de Nederlandse burgers ook worden uitgeknepen , deze altijd een enorme grote mond hebben maar in de praktijk niet in beweging te krijgen zijn.
Dat is bijv. in Zuidelijke landen anders,daar weet men wat solidariteit is , als het nodig is.
Het is dus aan ons allen om er wat mee te doen.
Begin een ieder geval met petities en mails.
Uw eventuele lidmaatschap van de in feite grootste en machtigste automobielclub ANWB heeft u niets aan , die hebben nog nooit een echte vuist gemaakt tegen nadelige maatregelen tbv de automobilist.
De opeenvolgende directeuren van deze club hebben altijd mooi weer gespeeld tegen een dik salaris.
Succes gewenst.
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Thilant » 07 nov 2012, 01:10

Beste Benzers,
Net nog gekeken naar de petitie van de KNAC en er blijken nog maar 55000 ondertekenaars te zijn,dat is maar een klein deel van alle Oldtimer liefhebbers.
Toch die Hollandse grote mond en niets doen.
HET KAN NOG TOT DONDERDAG 8 NOVEMBER.
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor SiGG » 07 nov 2012, 02:24

Thilant,je kan oproep doen voor PROTEST-RITTEN toch.
En kijken hoeveel mensen mee gaan. :whistle:

Ik weet al naam voor toekomstige protest groep : Classic Criminals. ;)
DEAL WITH IT / LIVE WITH IT ! or sell your car...
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Toontje » 07 nov 2012, 07:25

mmm ik heb de juiste samen stelling voor protest rit moet er nog tekst op plakken
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor DMC » 07 nov 2012, 09:54

Liever een lasbak dan een leasbak
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Thilant » 07 nov 2012, 10:50

Beste Benzers,
Zodra er iets meer bekend is over deze wijziging kom ik er op terug.
Ik weet nog niet hoe zo iets te organiseren.
Ben bv. ook lid van de MBCN eens kijken wat deze club er van zegt.
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Re: Vrijstelling belasting voor oldtimers wordt afgeschaft

Berichtdoor Quinten » 07 nov 2012, 12:02

Ik zie het al voor me zo'n stoet wagens incl rokende vroege W201's en W124's met afwijkende plaatwerknaden, andere kleur bestuurdersstoel, op het dashboard geschroefde navi-scherm en notitieblok,...... :pinch: :silly: :side:
Dat gaat wel even indruk geven bij de beleidsmakers.
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