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Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 03 mei 2013, 19:17

Vraagje ?

Zit er verschil in motor steunen voor diesel motoren ?

Ik merk namelijk als de motor en de rest er om heen goed warm is, bij stationaire loop de motor in de carrosserie dreunen. Dat veroorzaakt een zwaar geluid in de auto.

Beetje gas geven en het geluid is weg.
Buiten auto hoor je niets is en is het echt het geluid wat door gegeven wordt door de carrosserie.

Ik denk dat het een rubber probleem is omdat dit pas gaat spelen als alles goed warm is.
De motor steunen zijn maart vorig jaar vervangen door de garage.
Maar goed deze besteld de spullen ook gewoon via een de Brezan bestel site.

Ik heb het vermoeden dat ik geen goede motor steun rubbers er onder heb zitten, en zou ik deze beter bij Mercedes kunnen halen ?

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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 03 mei 2013, 21:42

Ik heb ze toen bij de dealert gehaald, kreegf twee verschillende nummers (maar zagen er identiek uit) en op mijn auto zaten weer twee anderen volgens mij, maar zagen er ook t zelfde uit! Dus... ik weet t niet maar mijn blok ligt er nog in in ieder geval hahaha
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 03 mei 2013, 23:03

Ik weet uit mijn boot ervaring dat het soort en kwaliteit van het rubber voor de motor steunen nog al veel uit maakt voor de overbrenging.
Bij motoren zonder stuwdruk lager worden stugge motor steunen gebruikt en met een stuwdruk lager kun je je motor op soepele steunen zetten, en dat scheelt in het geluid en trillingen.

In hoeverre zijn de aftermarket rubbers anders dan die van MB die toch al snel 80,- euro kosten.
En in sommige shops kun je ze al voor 20,- euro krijgen.

Door het dreunen van de motor zou ik zeggen dat de huidige rubbers niet goed zijn, als ze warm worden is demping slecht.
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 24 mei 2013, 01:50

Als ik het onderdeel nummer van MB gebruik dan heb ik het volgende nodig

de A1232413013, maar ik kom toch op dit nummer twee verschillende types tegen.

Ik heb nu deze :



Maar deze wordt ook aangeboden :



Ook voor een 300 turbo diesel.

Maar het lijken mij twee compleet verschillende steunen.
Ik heb er nu van die metalen plaatjes tussen de steun en het rubber en die vallen in de slot gaten zo als het staat afgebeeld op het eerste rubber.

Gaan die onderste ook werken voor een 300 Diesel Turbo ?
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Rein in Trondheim » 24 mei 2013, 09:18

t lijkt ofde ene foto een onderaanzict is en de tweede een bovenaanzict, kan et niet gewoon etzelfde onderdeel zijn.
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Wim Matsinger » 24 mei 2013, 09:37

ik heb ze ook vervangen, en bij de MB dealer besteld.. er is veel immitatie rommel in de markt.
dan betaal je inderdaag geen 75,- ex btw..maar je hebt wel rotzooi. Ik zoek de even op de nummers.
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Berichtdoor Merceleek » 24 mei 2013, 12:13

ik heb twee nwe liggen voor 35 euri . gr cees
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 25 mei 2013, 21:13

Mark, heb je dat gedreun pas als je m in z'n D zet? Dat heb ik ook namelijk hoor... In N of P redelijk rustig, in z'n D gelijk booobobobobooob en douwen!
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 25 mei 2013, 21:16

Ook in N en in D.

De steunen zijn geleverd door de garage kan nu niet direct zien of er nummer of een ster op staat.
Zo niet dan maar echte steunen proberen.
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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Martin123T » 25 mei 2013, 22:09

Hoi Mark,

Hoe heb je de motordemper (motoranschlag) gemonteerd? Helemaal volgens de regelen der kunst(WIS)? Zo niet, dan zou ik dit eerst doen. Een niet goed gemonteerde steun (demper) kan het dreunen ook veroorzaken.

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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 25 mei 2013, 22:33

Martin, je maakt me nieuwsgierig.

Die steun zag ik inderdaad op het onderdelen overzicht staan. Maar ik ben hem niet tegen gekomen met het uitbouwen van de motor en ik zou niet weten waar deze precies zou moeten zitten.

Zou je een foto kunnen plaatsen hoe dat op de 300 Diesel Turbo zit ?

De tekening is daar niet echt duidelijk over.

Verder zijn de twee motor schokdempers ook vervangen.
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Berichtdoor Martin123T » 25 mei 2013, 22:55

Oeps, ik weet niet zeker of deze ook op de turbodiesel zit. Als je 'm niet bent tegengekomen, dan zal dat wel niet.

Dit misschien: ?

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Re: Motorsteunen diesel

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 25 mei 2013, 23:03

Bij het onderdelen overzicht stond : 300 300 Turbo. ik weet idd ook niet of dit ook op de turbo van toepassing is.
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