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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wiebren240D » 29 feb 2016, 22:19

Hallo Frank

ik heb vorige week een W123 gesloopt waar een automaat in zat dat stukje kabel herken ik wel maar waar dat heen gaat ik heb geen idee.
heb de gehele kabelboom liggen ik denk even uit zoeken hoe het zit.

je hoort nog wel van mij ga er hoop ik morgen naar kijken.
dit is ook niet mijn sterkste vak elektronica

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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 01 maart 2016, 00:11

thank you wiebren

electrics is idd een hele puzzel
bijv de temperatuur sensor elektrisch vanuit het blok
waar zou hij zitten, welke pin in de ronde stekker van het dashboard unit, vroeg ik me af?

de ene manual zegt nr 1, de andere zegt nr 3 of nr 7

ik heb hem aangesloten op nr 3 , want die was nog leeg nml zie tekening
als hij niks doet verhuis ik hem wel nr 1 of 7

we zien wel

maar die kabel is wel essentieel ivm "park/neutra/" voor het starten ofschoon je dat ook wel kunt omzeilen via jumpering
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wietse » 01 maart 2016, 09:57

Volgens mij is foto 2 de stekker voor de kachel/blower.
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wiebren240D » 01 maart 2016, 14:55

Hallo Wietse

op foto 2 dat is de stekker van de kabel die van de automitsche versnellingsbak komt.
de stekker voor de kachel aanjager zit in het schutbord bij een W114/115.

Fank ik wens je veel suc6.
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 06 maart 2016, 16:05

ik heb de kabel van de W114 motor eraf kunnen halen en mijn vermoeden werd bevestigd
het verschil met de W123 kabel is dat de W114 kabel een 6 potige stekker heeft
de W123 heeft een 4 potige en een 2 potige (kickdown), bij de W114 zitten ze dus samen

nu ben ik echt bijna klaar :silly:

vaccuum aansluiten, een paar bouten hier en daar ,en nog wat dingetjes en dan kan de sleutel om!!
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 26 maart 2016, 17:02

kleine update

de W114 coupe gloeit voor en start met de de sleutel
wel stoer:

een W115 240D 3.0 tellerunit met gloeilampie die aan gaat in de coupe
de motor loopt nog niet.. maar dat komt wel
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 12 apr 2016, 23:37

mijne heren..

de coupe gloeit , start , loopt!!! en draait keurig stationair..
uitzetten gaat ook met de sleutel!!! (dieselslot zit erin)
en de tempmeter doet het ook!


lang leve de om617!!!!!

jahoo :grin:

wat nog te doen

gaspedaal beter maken. gaat niet lekker
dynamo fixen
klein olielekje van de adapterplaat fixen
transmissie , bowdencable, vacuum aansluiten en afstellen
uitlaatrammeltje fixen
en nog wat dingetjes

dus ik ben er nog niet

hij gaat voor en achteruit en zijn "d" en "r" in ieder geval (zonder gaspedaal)
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wietse » 13 apr 2016, 07:42

En waar is dat feestje? :clap: Goed gedaan Frankie!
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wiebren240D » 13 apr 2016, 08:44

Hoi Frank

gefeliciteerd nog even en dan rij je rond.

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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Bart200D » 13 apr 2016, 10:23

Gefeliciteerd.

Afstellen van da vacuum is een leuke klus, weet er alles van ondertussen :handgestures-thumbup:

Succes ermee en inderdaad, lang leve de OM617 !
Ein W123 fährt immer, wo eine StraBe ist.
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 13 apr 2016, 18:44

Dank jeWiebren
Wietse, het gebeurt allemaal in Zaanstad, wormerveer
en Bart, ik volg jouw verhaal op de voet hoor

moet wel nog een zooi dingetjes doen hoor
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 18 jul 2016, 23:33

update....

ik heb inmiddels 300km ermee gereden , max snelheid was ong 100 (vond ik effe genoeg, hij kan wel harder hoor)
automaat gaat verrassend goed :), een heel klein beetje bonken, maar dat komt later wel

2 vragen waar ik niet uitkom:

de olie circulatie, bij de om617 zijn er twee gaten in het blok voor het oliehuis
boven is out.beneden is retour naar de motor

ik heb dus het filterhuis van de m114/m130 genomen, hoe zit het daar?
is dat ook boven out, beneden in?

ik vertrouw het nml nog niet helemaal. wel constante druk
die oliekoeler zit in ieder geval goed, maar dat zie ik aan de hydraulische slang, boven retour, minder druk

op het plaatje kun je aan de pakking zien, nr 51,dat er twee gaten zitten ,wat is de retour? onder of boven?


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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 20 jul 2016, 17:42

ik heb even aan de m114 getorned, die is nu zonder oliehuis, uit het onderste gat komt olie
dus net andersom als bij de om617 ;)
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor PascalvD » 22 jul 2016, 12:25

even gekeken in het m110 boek het onder blok van de m110 is in grote lijnen redelijk gelijk met de m114

de olie koeler slangen voorste aansluiting gaat naar onderste aansluiting van de olie koler dat is de pers naar de koeler toe den achterste is de retour van de koeler af deze gaat het filter in wordt gefilterd en dan het systeem in

en hoe het gesitueerd word in de tekening lijkt het dat de ondste lijn ook het onderste gat dat is de olie van af je olie pomp
de bovenste lijn gaat naar je motor delen

succes gr pascal
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 22 jul 2016, 15:06

Dank je pascal. :handgestures-thumbup:

dan zitten ze gelukkig goed
het punt was dat er constant 3bar op de meter stond, ook stationair na een rit,
vanmiddag weer gereden en hij ging gelukkig naar de 2,5 bar stationair, na een ritje

weer een stapje verder, dus
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wietse » 24 jul 2016, 12:40

Misschien gewoon een toppie motorblok met goede olie druk??? :lol: ? Ik heb 2 blokken 250D staan en mee gereden. De ene 1 bar stationair, en andere 2 bar . Je begrijpt wel welke ik straks gaat inbouwen in mijn 300TD.
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mijn W114 coupe , vaccuum voor stoelen

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 07 aug 2016, 01:50

hey guys!

weer een vraag over de W114 diesel
ondertussen ruim 600km proefgereden, max snelheid tot nu toe: ong 100 km/u
geen trillingen cardan , automaat gaat behoorlijk soepel maar kan wel iets beter
maar een prangende vraag, aan de 300CD bezitters (wietse?)
ik krijg de stoelen niet op slot
met de originele motor ging het prima (m114)
maar met de om617 dus niet
ik zit uren te zoeken op i-net voor een schema, maar kom telkens schema's tegen voor de 300D en niet van de 300CD
hoe zit dat nu? bijv een 280C heeft een ventiel op de inlaat,de W114 250CE heeft dat ook,nr 5 op de tekening, maar mijn om617 dus niet
ik wil een draad tappen tbv dat ventiel op de om617 lucht inlaat.is dat de oplossing?of moet ik het aftappen van de rem
bekrachtiger slang zoals het sleutelstop verhaal?(nippel2, heb ik geprobeerd, zonder succes)
ik kom er niet uit :blink:

wietse, hoe zit dat bij jouw 300CD?
of heeft iemand een schema van de blauwe slangetjes voor de stoelen?
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wietse » 07 aug 2016, 11:19

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vacuum 2.jpg
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vacuum.jpg
vacuum slang vanaf pomp met diverse splitsingen
vacuum.jpg (107.73 KiB)

Mijn 300CD is niet meer :( Maar er zat ook een 250D blok in, met zelfgemaakte vacuum aansluitingen
Je hebt een 300D blok erin gezet, maar komt die uit een auto met centraal deurvergrendeling? Zo niet dan is die aansluiting er ook op het blok/inlaat niet. In ieder geval het blauwe slangetje moet je op het vacuum aansluiten. ergens een splitsing maken . Als ik me goed kan herinderen komt die van de vacuumpomp/rembekrachtiger vandaan.
Die schema's zijn hier eerder geplaatst op het forum. Pompjes in je stoel nog goed?, slangetjes wel aangesloten.?

En anders gewoon vastzetten met een Tyrip (apk)

Enne, durf je niet harder dan 100km?
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 07 aug 2016, 11:47

dank je wietse
ik ga straks weer klooien
eerlijk gezegd nog niet nee, ik wil hem nog niet max belasten, hij gaat nog niet vlot naar de 81 graden
en dan 120 met "koudere " motor is roofbouw
stond gisteren trouwens stil met hem op de snelweg. ik schrok me dood!
motor viel uit. en dat voor een diesel :S
ik weet wel wat het is hoor, tankfilter vuil.en te weinig diesel . na een paar minuten liep hij weer gelukkig
dit heeft mijn 300D ook een keer gehad 5 jaar terug
wat is er met je 300CD gebeurd dan?
de "diesel" badge zit er trouwens ook al op. staat wel stoer B)
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Re: mijn W114 coupe , daar gaat de motor

Berichtdoor Wietse » 07 aug 2016, 22:28

gesloopt, en het embleem aan jouw verkocht!!
Wilde hem goed opknappen maar viel toch tegen! Dus gesloopt e.a. verkocht. Keuzes maken en nu bezig met mijn 280CE, is al met apk, nog even sparen voor spuiten en volgend jaar misschien op LPG! Daarna ga ik aan mijn 300TD beginnen.Daar trek ik ook wel 2 jaar vooruit.

En ook aan een mini bezig voor mijn zoon, vouwdakje van een Twingo erin plaatsen! en laswerk, :cry:
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mine met webasto vouwdak.jpg
webasto vouwdak van twingo
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