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Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor BS82 » 05 jun 2013, 20:06

Hallo,

Ik zie net dat er een beetje water onder mijn auto lag, dacht direct dat de radiotor lekte.
Toen heb ik meteen de motorkap geopend en zag tot mijn grote verbazing dat mijn radiator beschadigd was.
Heb toen nagedacht hoe dat mogelijk was maar kan me helemaal niet voorstellen wat er gebeurd is.
De beschadiging lijkt nogal erg, maar ik weet niet of deze gerepareerd kan worden door bijvoorbeeld ,et wynn's radiator stop leak.

Mijn vraag aan jullie; enig idee hoe deze beschadigd kan worden? Vooral advies wat ermee te doen, het liefst goedkoop i.p.v. een hele radiator te moeten kopen (tweedehands of nieuw)
Naderhand toen ik foto's maakte dacht ik bij mezelf, het lijkt alsof er iemand met een schroevendraaier tussen de gril is gaan rammen. Moet er niet aan denken om een nieuwe/tweedehands radiator aan te schaffen en iemand zou weer zo iets kunnen doen !?

Graag advies, groetjes Bert
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Merceleek » 05 jun 2013, 20:09

heb er nog 1 liggen , ook beschadigt maar niet lek .

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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Tjeutn » 05 jun 2013, 21:10

radiatoren versleiten ook. nooit lek stop rommel erin gooien is toch maar tijdelijk en is de grootste rommel om nog ooit uit het koelsysteem te krijgen. een nieuwe (goede)immitatie kost hier rond de 70 euro
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Govert » 05 jun 2013, 21:54

Dit is normale slijtage voor een radiateur. Het kan nog erger trouwens. Hoe meer van de ladders zijn verdwenen, hoe minder de koeling is. Koop een goede radiateur, bijvoorbeeld van Behr of een goede originele tweedehands. Kijk ook goed in de radiateur bij tweedehands, als die geroest is, dan kan je het beter niet kopen.
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 05 jun 2013, 23:14

Je kunt de radiateur ook laten reviseren. Dan worden de onder en bovenbak opnieuw gebruikt als ze nog in goede staat zijn en krijg je weer een koperen koelblok in de radiateur.
Kost wellicht meer dan een nieuwe immitatie koeler maar als de nieuwe een aluminium exemplaar zou worden dan zou ik deze niet willen hebben. Ik heb namelijk de ervaring met alu radiateuren dat deze, wanneer de auto gedurende langere tijd niet wordt gebruikt wordt, deze spontaan gaan corroderen.

Echter wanneer Behr een nieuwe koperen koeler kan leveren is dat ook het overwegen waard. denk we dat het koper op dit moment erg duur is dus reken maar op een behoorlijke kostenpost.
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Govert » 05 jun 2013, 23:44

De W123 heeft nooit een koperen radiateur gehad. De boven en onderbak van een W123-radiateur zijn van plastic.

Als je gewoon de koelvloeistof elke twee/drie jaar vervangt en op peil houdt, dan hoef je je geen zorgen te maken over roestvorming.
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Bart200D » 06 jun 2013, 11:23

Hoy,

Als je een idee wil hebben hoe een radiator afziet:

Steek je hoofd maar eens een halfuur uit het raam en je mond open als je aan het cruisen bent met je Benz 8-)

Je zal geen honger lijden - om nog maar te zwijgen van het rondvliegend vuil (steentjes e.d.).

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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor BS82 » 06 jun 2013, 11:34

Hallo,

Ik heb wat gezocht op het internet en begrijp dat er veel verschillende radiatoren zijn voor de W123.
Hier wat info van mijn auto; Mercedes 250 (1982), benzine, handgeschakeld, geen airco.
Ik ben me aan het oriënteren naar een imitatie, lijkt me beter dan gebruikt. Origineel kost hij 270 euro bij Mercedes.

Mocht iemand een adres of zo weten, hoor ik het graag.

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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor MB-Jens » 06 jun 2013, 19:56

En Jawel, hier ook een gevalletje waterschade...
het betreft hier een 300TDT radiator. Ergens in het midden onderaan zie ik het er vrij vlot uitlopen.druppen.
Ik houd me aanbevolen voor een verse (nieuw dan we 2e hands).
Wat is een goed adres voor een nieuw exemplaar?

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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Diospuszta » 06 jun 2013, 20:19

Hallo Jens,

Let op bij jouw radiator of er onderaan de radiator 2 waterslangen zitten, ik had eerst de verkeerde voor mijn 300TDT met onder 1 aansluiting.
Ik heb een Behr radiator en ben daar dik over tevreden.
De kosten met nieuwe thermostaat en montage was rond de 300 euro maar kwamen hem diezelfde middag brengen vanuit Boedapest (Hongarije) toch 260km naar ons vakantiehuis en dat kost ook geld.

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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor MB-Jens » 06 jun 2013, 21:46

Ha Jan,

Ja das redelijk he. Ik zit ff te kijken maar ik kom hier in NL uit op 175,- voor een Nissens bij winparts.
Overigens zie ik dat je in Hongarije woont? jaar of wat geleden nog wel eens op vakantie geweest in die wereld... spreekt me wel erg aan moet ik zeggen. Ik was toen in de buurt van Kecskemet en van daaruit richting de Roemeense grens weer naar het noorden. Toen in een kadetje overigens.
Oke, weer on topic!
Ik bedenk me of het lonend zou zijn om de radiator vanuit Hongarije op te laten sturen....??
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Re: radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 07 jun 2013, 09:15

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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Kwikstaartje » 20 aug 2016, 10:31

Na 10 jaar probleemloos rijden heb ik nu ook waterschade.....
Heb nieuwe radiator besteld.
Ik maak me een beetje zorgen over wat er gaat gebeuren als ik de twee olie-leidingen van de automaat eraf ga schroeven.
Ik wil niet dat de automaat leegloopt of is dat geen probleem. De wagen rijdt erg goed en dat wil graag zo houden.
Heeft iemand een tip wat de beste methode is om zo min mogelijk olie te verliezen?
Of betekent deze actie gewoon: automaat volledig verversen?
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 20 aug 2016, 10:55

uit die slangen komt niet veel olie hoor, wel ophoog houden die mondjes

de radiateur zelf wel afdoppen, daar loopt wel olie uit
misschien zitten er dopjes op de radiateur die je koopt?
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Kwikstaartje » 20 aug 2016, 11:41

Hallo Frankie68
dank voor je snelle reactie.

Het gaat mij vooral om de olie die evt uit de slangetjes loopt. Dat zal ik zoveel mogelijk proberen te voorkomen.
De olie die uit de radiator loopt beschouw ik als afval en ga ik weer bijvullen. Zal ca 1 liter zijn??
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Tjeutn » 21 aug 2016, 12:05

Er loopt ongv 10cl à 15cl olie uit de radiator ongeveer is echt niet veel hoor
onderdelen van een W124 nodig pb me
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Toontje » 22 aug 2016, 07:23

is maar 1 antwoord gewoon een nieuwe die gebruikte zijn ook 25 jaar oud
www.steronderdelen.nl is nog niet zo ver van je weg ook
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Kwikstaartje » 22 aug 2016, 19:46

Had je dat maar eerder geschreven...... nu heb ik weer teveel betaald :)
Radiator is nog niet binnen helaas.
Ik heb gezocht maar kan het niet vinden: zit er op het blok nog ergens een aftapplug voor het koelwater, of loopt alles eruit als de plug onderin de radiator open is.
Die laatste heb ik open gedraaid en er komt ca 5 liter uit. Terwijl er ca 10 liter in hoort toch?

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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 22 aug 2016, 21:23

er zit ook nog een hoop in het motorblok , kachel ook wat
en in de slangen.
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Re: Radiator beschadigd

Berichtdoor Kwikstaartje » 23 aug 2016, 21:40

heb de nieuwe radiator binnengekregen vandaag.

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Ik had me iets te druk gemaakt: er kwam bijna geen bak-olie uit de olie-leidingetjes. :unsure:
Minder dan een half koffiekopje.
Ik heb de nieuwe oliekoeler eerst gevuld met nieuwe olie en toen de leidingen weer aangesloten. Dan komt er maar weinig lucht in de leiding.
Daarna water gevuld. Er was ca 4 liter uitgekomen en er ging ca 7 liter in terug. Dus ik was al ca 3 liter "kwijt".
Daarna warmdraaien en nog ietsje bijvullen.
Kan de Benz er weer even tegen :)
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