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W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 01 maart 2017, 21:59

De elektrische ventilator voor de airco draait automatisch bij het contact / starten van de motor. Naar mijn weten moet hij aanslaan bij een graad of 100. Iemand een idee hoe ik dat kan voorkomen? Misschien iets met het relais?
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 03 maart 2017, 01:03

Iemand advies of ervaring hiermee?
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 03 maart 2017, 17:16

Nee, geen ervaring mee, maar wat gebeurt er als je de stekker van de temperatuur schakelaar voor deze fan eraf haalt?
Is het over, dan is de schakelaar defect.
Blijft de fan nog draaien, kan het inderdaad het relais zijn, luister eens of dit relais hoorbaar/ voelbaar inschakelt bij het op kontakt zetten, en als de auto op kontakt staat, trek het relais eruit, het zou ook dan moeten klikken (uitschakelen).
Ook dit is hoor en voelbaar.
De fan moet nu niet meer draaien, anders kan het de bedrading nog zijn.
Sluiting of ondeskundig geplaatste accessoires, een draadbrug o.i.d..

Is de airco verder wel operationeel?
Wat voor airco systeem heb je? Draaiknoppen voor de verwarming en airco of een systeem met drukknoppen en een temperatuurwiel?
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 04 maart 2017, 20:24

Dank voor je advies, van de week even uit checken. Airco pomp is recentelijk vervangen, maar daar voor was het ook al.
Ik heb draaiknoppen voor de verwarming en airco.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 11 maart 2017, 14:01

Ik vond deze draad los onder de koplamp passagiers kant. Moet deze niet aangesloten worden op de aansluiting van de luchtdroger? (zwarte, verzonken bus) Ik heb het er even opgezet en contact aan maar ventilator bleef draaien.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 11 maart 2017, 14:51

Er zitten twee drukschakelaars bij de droger, 1 voor een te lage druk, lees te weinig koelmiddel, dan werkt de pomp niet, 1 voor temperatuur van het koelmiddel, dan moet er gekoeld worden en schakelt de ventilator. de stekker die je in de hand hebt lijkt inderdaad op de droger te horen. Volgens mij is dit de lage druk schakelaar.
De andere schakelaar op de foto zit nog aangesloten, er lijkt gesoldeerd te zijn aan de bedrading.
Wat gebeurd er als je 1 van die stekkers los haalt? Blijft de fan dan nog draaien op contact?
Als hij dan stil staat zou de temperatuurschakelaar defect kunnen zijn.
Met beide stekkers eraf van deze temperatuurschakelaar en motor uit, zou je een oneindig grote weerstand moeten meten, meet je ongeveer 1 ohm, is de schakelaar stuk. Meet je oneindig veel ohm, is de schakelaar goed en zal of het relais blijven plakken in de "aan" positie, of de bedrading is niet in orde.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 11 maart 2017, 17:01

Bedankt voor het meedenken mensen. Het volgende is gecheckt:
- 1 stekker los, ventilator blijft draaien
- 2 stekkers los, oneindig veel ohm gemeten op de stekkers zelf, waar de stekkers aanzitten meet ik niks (hoort denk ik zo?)
- lage druk stekker maar even met wat tape vast gezet. Zat wat uitgedroogd rubber op om het op z'n plaats te houden.
- relais gecheckt, deze hoor/voel ik bij kontakt. Neem aan dat dat zo hoort en dat die dan niet plakt in de aan positie?
- relais eruit, de ventilator stopt (wat een rust)
- bedrading lijkt goed, is niks gesoldeerd

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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 12 maart 2017, 02:47

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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 12 maart 2017, 11:34

Kan je ook aangeven waar de sensor / schakelaar zit van het koelsysteem? Dan meet ik dat ook even.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 12 maart 2017, 13:38

Voor die vraag was ik al bang, ik ben geen kenner van de M110.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 12 maart 2017, 14:36

Super :) Bedankt!
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 17 maart 2017, 18:01

hoi,

die schakelaar is stuk, heb deze toevallig vorig jaar vervangen bij mijn eigen wagen.
kan je nog gewoon bestellen mij MB.
door ouderdom breekt het gewoon af en is niet te repareren, als ik het goed heb is dit de temperatuur sensor.
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Re: W123: Elektrische ventilator loopt continue

Berichtdoor JeePee » 31 maart 2017, 22:06

Schakelaar lijkt het nog te doen. Ik heb de Benz naar de airco boer laten nakijken en er moet luchtdroger condensator schakelaar ding vervangen worden, de kabel die los lag. Helaas duurt de levering een maand, dus nog even geduld....
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