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280C verdamper

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280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 30 mei 2017, 18:21

Hallo mede benz-eigenaren,

Ik heb samen met mijn vader een W123 280C (carburateur). De verdamper die er op zit is erg klein die weinig vermogen levert. We willen er een andere verdamper op zetten, maar wat is een geschikte verdamper voor de 280 motor? Mijn vader had vroeger ook een Benz op LPG, maar dat is 15 jaar terug. In de tussentijd zijn er heel wat nieuwe verdampers op de markt gekomen maar ik vraag me dus af wat een goede optie is.

Mvg,

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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor PascalvD » 30 mei 2017, 20:10

Maak eens een foto van wat je er nu op hebt zitten dit vergelijkt een stukje makkelijker

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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor Jon » 31 mei 2017, 15:28

Ik heb nog wel een liggen.
Komt van een 280E.
Mocht je interesse hebben, stuur dan maar een PBtje.

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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 18 jun 2017, 13:43

Ik was mijn forumpost even helemaal vergeten, maar we hebben al een andere verdamper.

De auto houdt erg in op LPG, loopt er wel mooi rustig en stationair op. Als je gas geeft klimt hij langzaam op in toeren, niet zoals het hoort bij een 280. Op benzine loopt hij wel flot en pittig. Als ik het luchtfilter er uithaal wordt het echter wel beter (zit al een nieuwe luchtfilter op). 6mm leidingen zitten op de wagen. omvl verdamper nieuw.

Iemand die nog een idee heeft? Hij pakt dus niet goed op. We proberen het goed te krijgen maar als er een paar mensen zijn die misschien ideeën hebben kan dat altijd helpen.

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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 18 jun 2017, 14:38

Heb je de stelschroef in de slang wel voldoende open staan??
Luchtfilter op winterstand?klep in luchtfilter moet zo koud mogelijk lucht aan zuigen
Luchtfilter moet zo weinig mogelijk rijwind vangen
Dus opening van luchtfilter naar beneden staan?
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 19 jun 2017, 11:26

De stelschroef is zeker niet het probleem. Luchtfilter staat goed.

Hier zijn een paar foto's. Kan het ook aan het mengstuk liggen?
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor drieske » 19 jun 2017, 11:42

Wel rijk afstellen op LPG is aan te raden. En heb je het goede gasstuk ?
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 19 jun 2017, 13:21

Daar zoeken we het zelf nu ook wat in. Zonder luchtfilter liep ie al een stuk beter namelijk.

Het LPG vloeit rijkelijk, staat zeker niet te arm.
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 19 jun 2017, 16:53

Ik heb 2x een 280C allebeide zit een veel opener gasmengstuk op
1 met 4 open gaten bovenin
Als je even bij een Gasonderdelen leverancier op website kijkt, kun je zien welk er eigenlijk op hoort
Ook kun je hier zoekfuncties gebruiken het kan niet anders of ergens staat wel foto welk er eigenlijk op een Solex, Pierburg 4 a 1 carburateur hoort
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor drieske » 19 jun 2017, 22:51

Ontsteking ook wat vroeger zetten, Ca3⁰, LPG ontsteekt trager dus eerder zetten.
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 21 jun 2017, 12:55

Ik ga op zoek naar een gasmengstuk met 4 poorten, hopen dat ik wat kan vinden. Auto is over 2 weken 40 jaar oud dus het zou leuk zijn dat ie dan ook lekker op gas loopt.
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 21 jun 2017, 13:16

Ik kwam deze foto tegen op het forum, ik gok dat je dit gasmengstuk bedoeld?
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 21 jun 2017, 15:31

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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 21 jun 2017, 16:50

Inderdaad dat is het mengstuk die ik al 20 jaar gebruik.
Ik denk dat Richard bedoeld dat je de stelschroef ook te ver open kan draaien.
Ik heb in het verleden vaker gas installatie s ingebouwd maar ik begon altijd met hem 2,5 slag opendraaien
Daarna uitproberen ,maar wel zeker weten dat je andere delen goed zijn zoals gasmengstuk,toevoerleiding van verdamper zit ook een klein filtertje in bij sommige verdampers
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 21 jun 2017, 17:56

Het mengstuk wat er nu op zit lijkt wel van een 250. Maar dat kan ik niet zeker zeggen. We zijn al eerder met de schroef bezig gegaan, hoe meer hij kreeg hoe beter hij liep, ieder geval, mijn vader zei dat het het daar niet aan lag. Daarom zoeken wij het nu ook in het mengstuk. Verdamper is nieuw. Oude gevuld met koelvloeistof. Zoals ik al zei, toen het luchtfilter er uit was liep hij ook al beter en trok hij beter op. Het kan nog beter, maar je zou zeggen dat het dan met de lucht te maken heeft, dat hij te weinig lucht eerst kreeg, en daarom zijn we nu met het mengstuk bezig. De auto krijgt wel genoeg gas, en de leidingen zijn ook mooi, geen knikken er in, spuit er uit.

Het wordt nu dus eerst zoeken om een mengstuk, mocht iemand nog een liggen hebben voor een schappelijke prijs, dan hoor ik het graag :tongue
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 21 jun 2017, 19:04

Als hij voor een 250 geschikt is ,dan is hij ook geschikt voor een 280.,(zijn zelfde carburateur s)
In principe zou je de gasslang gewoon bovenin de carburateur kunnen hangen
Daar kan hij toch nog redelijk lopen
Alleen ik heb nu je gevoel dat je gas niet ongehinderd in je carburateur kan stromen.
Mijn eigen oplossing zou zijn ik bind de gasslang even voor nood boven in carburateur zonder gasmengstuk.
En ga proberen of ik hem zo beter aan het lopen krijg.
Let wel DAT ZOU IK DOEN
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 21 jun 2017, 21:40

Dank voor deze tip. Vertelde hem aan mijn vader en die had het ook al wat in gedachten, slang boven de carburateur.
Als we het hebben geprobeerd volgt een statusupdate :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor drieske » 21 jun 2017, 22:43

Pas wel op met gas!
En je moet het gasstuk hebben met de 4 openingen die corresponderen met de openingen van de Solex 4A1 carburateur.
Oorspronkelijk was er nog een Necam gasstuk dat tussen inlaatspruitstuk en carburateur in werd gemonteerd maar dit is tegenwoordig zeer zeldzaam.
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Re: 280C verdamper

Berichtdoor rdj255 » 22 jun 2017, 18:55

Oke, het probleem is opgelost!

Wat was het nu: De stelschroef. Het probleem lag er in dat de stelschroef te klein was, waardoor het gas geknepen werd.
Het verschil merk je direct in het vermogen, optrekken enz.

Iedereen die heeft geholpen op het forum: Bedankt :handgestures-thumbup:
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