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Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 22 jun 2017, 21:59

Omdat mijn motor uit een schakelwagen kwam moet ik een oliepompje voor op de motor bijplaatsen.
Die pomp moet worden aangedreven. Heeft iemand toevallig een foto van dat asje en wat daar verder nog voor nodig is?

Waarschijnlijk heb ik nodig:
Asje met aansluiting?
Leiding vanaf de kop thermostaathuis. (Is nu niet meer lang genoeg omdat het om de pomp heen moet)
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor Toontje » 23 jun 2017, 06:42

is mij niet geheel duidelijk wat je bedoeld
normaal gesproken word dat pompje aangedreven door de nokkenas
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 23 jun 2017, 13:03

De pomp voor de niveauregeling wordt inderdaad aangedreven door de nokkenas.
Het kettingwiel op de nokkenas zit normaal met een zeskantbout vast, bij de niveuregeling zit deze met een imbus vast, deze imbus bevestgd tevens de meenemer voor de pomp aan de nokkenas, samen met het kettingwiel.
De pakking voor het kleppendeksel is anders, de pompas moet er immers door.

De leiding vanaf het thermostaathuis is bij mijn weten niet langer, er zit een sleuf achter de pomp waar hij door loopt.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 25 jun 2017, 19:27

De pomp wordt bediend door een asje dat door een inbusbout aan de nokkenas wordt vastgemaakt. Daartussen zit nog een plaatje (meenemer) waar ik naar op zoek ben.

Wat ik wel heb, staat op de foto.

Graag reactie.



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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 26 jun 2017, 13:49

De meenemer die je zoekt heeft nummer 102 236 00 16.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 26 jun 2017, 21:58

Bedankt Richard, Nog een tip waar ik dat op de kop kan tikken of gewoon bestellen bij MB?
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 27 jun 2017, 10:16

Je kunt een prijs opvragen bij de dealer, dan hoor je ook of het leverbaar is.
Soms valt de prijs erg mee en kan je net zo goed nieuw bestellen dan tweede hands zoeken.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 27 jun 2017, 16:44

Wat ik begrijp is dat er een andere motor in is gekomen. Waar is de oude motor? Daar zouden alle onderdelen toch op moeten zitten.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 29 jun 2017, 14:12

Dag Willem,


Iemand die ik ooit als steun en toeverlaat beschouwde heeft deze (defecte) motor op onnavolgbare wijze zoekgemaakt. Helaas.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 29 jun 2017, 20:24

De meenemer is besteld. Kosten ongeveer 12 euro.
Dit is dus een opgelost probleem.

Op naar het volgende onderwerp. Kijk naar benzineleiding.
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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 29 jul 2017, 21:49

HELP!
Helaas is mijn probleem met de montage van de pomp voor de niveauregeling nog niet opgelost.

Wel ben ik al een end op weg geholpen door o.a. Richard met veel tips. Ik heb nu al wel een passen de "meenemer".

Echter is dit toch nog een oproep om mij de verklaring te leveren voor het nu volgende probleem:

Vooraf:
De as en pomp heb ik los van de motor verkregen. Dus misschien zijn ze wel van een verkeerd type of model!!


(Hierbij gaan ook foto’s die hopelijk de zaak verduidelijken)

Als ik de as met toebehoren wil monteren, kan de flens waarop de pomp gemonteerd is, niet helemaal tot aan de kop komen. Er blijft nog zo’n 12 mm over.

De afstanden zoals op de foto’s is aangegeven:
Van buitenkant pomp (met dikke keerring) tot plaat is 25,5mm (ipv255 mm zoals foutief op foto vermeld)
Van buitenkant pomp tot binnenin pomp 33,0 mm (ipv 330 mm) (ipv330 mm zoals foutief op foto vermeld)

Plaat is 12 mm dik
Meenemer is 6 mm dik
As is 60 mm lang (+ 3mm die in het distributietandwiel verdwijnt.(ipv 600 mm zoals foutief op foto vermeld)


Dus als iemand weet heeft van het bestaan van een kortere as of een pomp gecombineerd met een tussenplaat, waar de as dieper in gaat, zou dat geweldig zijn.
De dikte van de meenemer is niet relevant. Want de nokjes op de as aan de pompzijde komen sowieso tegen de binnenkant van de pomp.


Tot nu heb ik begrepen dat alle pompen en asjes voor allerlei motoren hetzelfde zijn. Maar dat klopt dus niet met mijn bevindingen.


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Re: Hydrolische niveauregelaar W123 230E

Berichtdoor FransvanKollem » 11 aug 2017, 16:32

Er is uiteindelijk toch een oplossing.
Thimo in Krommenie stuurde mij de tussenplaat, meenemer en as die bij elkaar horen en wel degelijk verschillen van de dezelfde onderdelen, die ikzelf heb.

Op de foto is duidelijk te zien dat asje en borst op de tussenplaat lager zijn.
Nummer tussenplaat is 102 236 02 45. Er is op deze plaat ook een uitsparing voor het koperen leidinkje, dat voor de motor langs gaat.



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