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Alles omtrent de carrosserie en de buitenkant, zoals bijv. spuiten, roest, plaatwerk, lassen maar ook spiegels, rubbers en chroom, ruitenwissers etc.
door rojo124 » 07 jan 2018, 20:53
Ik weet niet zeker hoe het bij deze types gaat maar bij de W124 moet je achter beginnen....kunststof spatel of voorzichtig met een schroevendraaier er onder omhoog drukken (zit gewoon in klemmetjes gedrukt) en dan naar voren toe werken.
ik den dat het bij deze types hetzelfde is maar weet niet zeker.
maar als je geen roest vind onder de ruiten/strips dan zou ik deze persoonlijk laten zitten.
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door Luke » 07 jan 2018, 21:46
Bedankt voor je reactie, bij de W124 zit het inderdaad al een stuk moderner/makkelijker.
Nog een plaatje erbij gezocht. Onderstaande (knikken van de daklijst) wil ik proberen te voorkomen.
Is het trouwens mogelijk om de voorruit eruit te halen zonder deze lijst te verwijderen?
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door WJ15129 » 07 jan 2018, 22:32
De voorruit kan eruit zonder de daklijst te verwijderen. Een jaar os 30 geleden hebben ze bij de dealer voor mij eens een voorruit vervangen en toen werd de lijst niet verwijderd.
Drie jaar geleden heb ik mijn daklijsten eraf gehaald toen de auto werd gespoten, het is te doen zonder verbuigen, maar het terug netjes plaatsen is wel een hele klus.
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door KoenK » 07 jan 2018, 22:41
Ik zou de voor en achterruit er wel uithalen, dat is niet zo heel moeilijk en dan wel je sierlijsten en je rubber om je raam laten zitten dan kan je ze er ook zo weer indoen. Dan word het spuiten ook veel beter gedaan. Tenzij ze vastgekit zitten natuurlijk dan is het een ander verhaal..
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door Wietse » 08 jan 2018, 11:39
Die sierlijst op je dakrand kan blijven zitten om je ruit eruit te halen. Wel moet je het stukje lijst wat verticaal omhoog gaat naast je ruit losmaken. dit zijn 3 parkers waar je lastig bijkomt. Je moet een goed passende schroevendraaier hebben want de onderste wil nog wel eens verroest zijn. Maar mocht je gaan spuiten is het beter om alles eraf te halen. Ook de ruiten. Ik heb zojuist de daklijsten eraf gehaald want mijn auto ga naar de spuiter, en toch kwam ik een beetje roest tegen wat ik niet gezien had achter de lijst, dusssss.
Ruiten eruit is een persoonlijke keus van jouw en/of de spuiter. Ze kunnen er een touwtje onderleggen ( ik pak altijd stroomdraad) en dan spuiten ze een stukje onder het rubber mee. Maar je moet van te voren heel goed schoonmaken op stof /vocht enz want tijdens het spuiten spuit je restvuil mee! En als die eruit zijn dan heb je daar geen last van. Nadeel is weer...ruiten demonteren en weer monteren is zeer lastig. kans op breuk ivm temperatuur veerschillen van je handen enzo.
Ik heb mijn achterruit een paar jaar geleden gedaan met nieuw rubber en lekker veel profielrubber kit. Die gaat er dus niet uit. Voorruit gaat er wel uit want die zit niet niet lekker qua ruitlijst en daar komt dus een mooier voor in de plaats.
succes he, ik ga weer schuren vandaag.
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door Hans230CE » 08 jan 2018, 12:48
Voor het mooiste resutaat, alles eraf
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A car takes you from A to B, A Benz takes you everywhere and beyond.
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door John57 » 08 jan 2018, 23:08
je kan een een touwtje onder je rubbers door trekken dan afplakband er op en om het rubber heen buigen , na het spuiten afplakband van het rubber afpulken en touwtje er voorzichtig onder vandaan halen
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door Luke » 08 jan 2018, 23:30
Beste allen,
Wederom bedankt voor alle nuttige reacties.
Ik begin steeds meer te neigen naar:
-Daklijsten laten zitten.
-Voor en achter ruit eruit.
De rubbers van zowel de voor en achterruit zijn 90% zeker nog de eerste (auto is 20 jaar gebruikt en heeft erna 20 jaar in een schuur gestaan).
De raamrubbers van de voorruit en achterraam zijn redelijk hard geworden en er ontstaan al kleine scheurtjes als je het wilt 'oplichten' van de carrosserie. Omhoog buigen en dan spuiten gaat hem dan sowieso niet worden. Vandaar waarschijnlijk toch maar nieuwe rubbers.
Ik heb enige how-to's gelezen en het lijkt lastig maar doenbaar. Oude rubber kan dan sowieso kapot gesneden worden om het glas en de chromen strip zo goed mogelijk te houden.
Vanaf waar kun je het beste snijden? Van binnenuit de flap die achter de carrosserie rand het geheel vast houdt?
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door John57 » 08 jan 2018, 23:36
verstandig besluit volgens mij buitenkant boven het chroomwerk en binnen in de flap uit kijken voor je hemeltje en van te voren nieuwe rubbers bestellen , albers oldtimers in leuwarden verkoopt geloof ik rubbers met goede pasvorm
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door MB280E » 09 jan 2018, 00:51
Daklijsten zou ik laten zitten. Van enkele kenners (mensen die aan de W123 gewerkt hebben toen die nieuw was) al gehoord en gezien dat dit miserie is om correct te demonteren en terug plaatsen.
Voorruit en achterruit zou ik er uithalen en met nieuw rubber terug monteren.
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door Toontje » 09 jan 2018, 09:01
raamrubbers langs buiten kapot snijden mes plat op de ruit en snijden dan de lijsten eraf nemen ,uiterst voorzichtig met die lijsten die erin zitten als je ze buigt krijgen ze die niet meer terug . dan de ruit eruit nemen
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door Luke » 17 jan 2018, 23:42
Top, bedankt voor de reacties, gaan we doen
Updates staan t.z.t. in m'n project;)
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door Luke » 09 feb 2018, 10:04
Beste forumgenoten,
Na wat rondlezen heb ik vernomen dat de ruitenkit van 3M 08509 de juiste is om de nieuwe rubbers voor de voor en achter ruit te monteren.
De wijze waar en hoe de kit wordt aangebracht lijkt een beetje te verschillen. Volgens het Mercedes handboek moet er zowel in het staande stuk van de sponning als tussen het glas en het rubber kit worden aangebracht. Hoeveel tubes zou ik nodig hebben voor de voorruit en achterruit samen?
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door Wietse » 09 feb 2018, 11:05
1 is genoeg. Een zo dun mogelijk randje erin, ik heb het rondom gedaan zowel tussen ruit/rubber en rubber carrosserie. mijn gedachte was beter te veel dan te weinig.
klus handschoentjes aan en uitkijken voor je hemeltje!!!! Wel belangrijk dat je en origineel rubber koopt. En als die kit speciaal voor profiel rubber is en die NIET lijmend is, dan is het goede. succes he !
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door Luke » 09 feb 2018, 11:19
Hoi Wietse, bedankt voor je snelle reactie. In de handleiding spraken ze van een kitrups van wel 8mm in de sponning aanbrengen, leek mij ook vrij veel, weinig zin in een smeerboel.
Juist, deze is inderdaad niet lijmend, echt voor voor ruiten met een apart rubber ipv het moderne systeem.
Ik heb rubbers van febi, ik ben benieuwd hoe dit gaat lukken. Ik las juist redelijk goede ervaringen hierover (sommige vonden febi zelf beter dan origineel?) Prijzen van origineel worden toch vrij stevig voor 2 rubbers..
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door Luke » 09 feb 2018, 11:20
Er waren ook nog goedkopere rubbers van het merk tructec, die heb ik dan weer bewust niet genomen. Ach we zullen zien.
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door Wietse » 09 feb 2018, 13:18
Voorzichtig erin zetten, en vooral dat laatste tikje niet geven, mijn score is 50%
op breuk. vooral oude ruiten zijn zwakker.
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door Weizengelb » 09 feb 2018, 17:03
Hoi Luke,
de daklijst is er best af te halen. Aan de voorkant met 3 kruisschroefjes en verder met een houtblokje en een kunststofhamer stukje voor stukje over de hele lengte gelijkmatig omhoog tikken. Op een gegeven moment kun je hem dan van voren (of achteren) af lostikken. Monteren met anti roestwax. Deze van de T zijn nog langer, voorzichtig te werk gaan en dat gaat prima en ze blijven mooi recht.
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- 19-5-2013%20zijkant.jpg (278.86 KiB)
De ruiten kunnen wel wat hebben, vooral de geharde securit achterruit. Ik zet ze er tegenwoordig alleen in, maar met zn 2en is een groot voordeel.
Niet TE hard erop slaan want dan kan hij scheruen, maar dan moet je toch al wel hard slaan hoor.
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- ruitmonteren.jpg (248.94 KiB)
Succes, Math
Das Beste oder Nichts!
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door Hans230CE » 09 feb 2018, 20:26
Soepel blijvende zuurvrije kit en ook niet te weinig.
Voor de rest, geduldig werken. Zelf ben ik doodsbenauwd van voor en achterruiten, daar hebben we specialisten voor.
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