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Raad ivm stralen of niet

Alles omtrent de carrosserie en de buitenkant, zoals bijv. spuiten, roest, plaatwerk, lassen maar ook spiegels, rubbers en chroom, ruitenwissers etc.

Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor John V » 24 feb 2018, 19:39

Ik ga stilaan beginnen met het opmaken van mijn 123, nu zal ik een paar deuren en een voorscherm moeten vervangen.
Deuren zijn net boven de rubberhouders doorgeroest, dus denk dat ik deze best ga vervangen.
Het rechter voorscherm moet ook vervangen worden, omdat het nogal vervormd is.
Ik heb een origineel voorscherm waar er onderaan wat roestvorming zit en ook rond de gaten van de bumper bevestigingen.
Nu had ik gedacht om het voorscherm reeds te laten stralen en in de epoxy te zetten, maar hoor nogal wat tegenstanders van stralen.
Maar wat kan ik nu het beste gaan doen?
Wat zijn jullie ervaringen?
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor MBreed » 24 feb 2018, 19:46

Het lijkt mij dat je enkel de roestige delen straalt en deze behandelt of laat behandelen en daarna het geheel schuren en in de grondverf zetten. Het hele scherm stralen lijkt mij onnodig.
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor John V » 24 feb 2018, 20:28

Begin er gelijk ook zo over te denken, maar de vraag blijft natuurlijk of er nergens roest verscholen blijft.
Vandaar dat mijn eerste gedacht was om alles volledig te strippen, maar heb schrik op vervorming.
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor MBreed » 24 feb 2018, 21:56

Als je de overgang heel goed en fijn schuurt, moet het geen probleem zijn. Misschien eens informeren bij een spuiter, wat hij denkt?
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 25 feb 2018, 11:40

Hoi John, Stalen isfijn maar als je grotere vlakken straalt trekt de plaat krom en krijg je golven erin. Ik zou dus inderdaad alleen de hoeken en randen stralen.

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Deze deuren waren na het stralen en scouperen ook golvig geworden en moest ik flink bijwerken.
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Spatborden ging goed met voornamelijk de randen gedaan.
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor John V » 25 feb 2018, 14:31

Dag Weizengelb,
Ben er van overtuigd om het ook zo te gaan doen want het zou zonde zijn om alles te gaan vervormen.
Miscchien kan jij me raad geven ivm met mijn voor deuren, deze hebben 2 roestgaten onderaan net boven het deurrubber.
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Had eerst gedacht om de deuren compleet te vervangen, maar wil zoveel mogelijk de originele stukken behouden dus begin ik te twijfelen, ik had gedacht om vervang stukken te kopen en deze gedeeltelijk in te lassen.
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 26 feb 2018, 23:19

Hoi John,

Lassen is niet altijd beter vind ik. Als de gaten niet in het zicht zijn zou ik de roest verwijderen (zandstralen?) en dan goed in de primer en aflakken. De gaten zijn dan alleen extra ventilatie, of als je ze toch dicht wil zou ik ze dichtkitten.

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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor Bouckaert » 28 feb 2018, 17:31

hoi

compleet stralen van de deur lijkt mij niet nodig als de deur voor de rest goed is gewoon een nieuwe bodem inlassen, dicht kitten vind ik geen oplossing, het rot dan gewoon 2 keer zo snel weg omdat er toch vocht bij komt. en zeker bij de 1e foto zit een behoorlijk gat dat lijkt al eens dicht geplamuurd te zijn ? gewoon een vervangingsdeel inlassen dat zijn ook de kosten niet en kan je weer jaren voorruit, wel goed conserveren aan de binnenkant na het lassen.

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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 01 maart 2018, 00:39

Die deur is zeker nog te redden.
Stralen is een vak, dat niet elke straler verstaat!
Informeer goed naar ervaringen van andere oldtimer bezitters met een straler voordat je je plaatwerk aan hem toevertrouwd. Stralen met te veel druk, te zeer haaks op de plaat of met te grof grit kan je plaatwerk compleet vervormen of kraters in het oppervlak achterlaten.
Stralen kun je zeker laten doen, mits je weet waar je het brengt.

Ik kwam nog wat anders tegen: Rustico, een middel dat roest chemisch verwijdert tot op het kale metaal.
https://www.hbm-machines.com/producten/ ... r-gel-50ml

Heeft iemand daar ervaring mee?
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor Wietse » 01 maart 2018, 11:56

Hoi Richard,
geen ervaring met dit middel maar ziet er belovend uit. gewoon proberen op een stuk wat niet in het zicht zit. Ik zelf gebruikt wel eens de roestomvormer van Action spuitbusje. Maak het zo kaal mogelijk, pitjes met een dremeltje erin uitfreesen. Dit spul erop spuiten , lekker paar dagen/week laten drogen en afwerken met primer en lak. Ik heb van mijn 230TE de onderkant van de achterklep gedaan, ben er zeer tevreden over.
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 01 maart 2018, 12:50

Als de temperaturen weer wat aangenamer zijn wil ik het zeker gaan uitproberen, maar ervaringen van gebruikers zijn welkom :)
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Re: Raad ivm stralen of niet

Berichtdoor John57 » 01 maart 2018, 22:00

ijs stralen schijnt goed te werken en soda ook op facebook staan mensen die komen bij je thuis
gr john
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