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Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 26 jun 2018, 22:37

Beste liefhebbers,
Heeft iemand de beschikking over een EPC? (Voor zover er 1 keuze via de EPC komt?)
Zoek juiste artikelnummer(s)
Maar tevens juiste kleurcode(s) voor het vervangen van mijn motorsteunen/motorlagers/hydrolagers of hoe je ze noemen wilt.
Nee, ik wil ze niet bij de dealer kopen :-).
Er zijn helaas wel meer dan 10 verschillende merken. Daarbij zijn er onder hetzelfde Mercedes nummer de verschillende kleurcodes.....zoals blauw, bruin, groen...enz.
Daarnaast al op internet de discussies gelezen dat er meningsverschillen zijn of links en rechts wel of niet nog kan verschillen. En verschillende meningen wat de codes betekenen...
Om ellenlange discussies hier te voorkomen graag alleen echte ervaringen met goede of slechte merken. En liever geen gokken of aannames. Onderdelen sites geven obv mijn gegevens gewoon 10 verschillende keuzes...
Dus wie het echt weet mag het zeggen....
W201 2.0e 1985 november.
Chassis WDB2010241F162818

MOTOR 102962 2.0E KATALYSATOR

AUTOMAAT GEEN AIRCO WEL SCHUIFDAK

Alvast simpele check of je steunen goed zijn;
Ga opzij van wagen staan. Duw op kleppendeksel MOTOR heen en weer. Beweegt het blok in de wagen (veringsgevoel) dan zijn ze goed. Beweegt blok niet maar gaat de wagen bewegen dan zijn ze ingezakt en op....zoals bij mij.

Alvast dank!
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor MBreed » 27 jun 2018, 00:29

Dit moeten de steunen zijn volgens jouw chassisnummer.

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De kleurcode van je wagen is 147
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 27 jun 2018, 00:48

Je bedoelt het goed, Max, :clap: maar...
De motorlagers zitten tussen de genoemde motordragers en de dwarsbalk in de carrosserie in, zijn vaak voorzien van een kleurcodering, een stip verf in een bepaalde kleur.....
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 27 jun 2018, 08:25

Klopt. De Duitsers noemen ze motorlager. Ben benieuwd of die ook te vinden zijn met nummer en kleur ☺.
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor MBreed » 27 jun 2018, 18:51

Dan doen we het zo :lol: Zo blijf ik leren!

Over de kleurcode kan ik niets vinden op de EPC.
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 27 jun 2018, 21:12

Weer een stapje verder Max :handgestures-thumbup:
Nu zie ik bij de beide lagers “bis ident nr” staan.
Deze lagers zijn dus tot een bepaald chassis nummer geleverd.
De lagers die je hier laat zien zijn gummi lagers, net zoals de W123 dat heeft.
De eerste bouwjaren van de W201 hadden die ook.
De latere jaren hadden hydrolagers, net als de W124.
Heb je ook gekeken of het chassisnummer wat is opgegeven geldig is voor deze lagers?
Volgens mij werden in 1985 al hydrolagers gebruikt namelijk, en gezien de vraagstelling van de topicstarter zou dat moeten kloppen. :wink
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 28 jun 2018, 09:06

Klopt. Ik heb al hydrolagers. Vanaf 1985. Heb een paar dealers al "uitgehoord " men kent de kleurcodes niet. .?! Staat niet in systeem. Maar op 5 onderdelen sites zie ik wel kleurcodes. Binnenkort meer. Heb al iets gevonden. Alleen raar dat de dealer dat niet in systeem heeft...
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor MBreed » 28 jun 2018, 11:56

Ze zijn nog geldig voor dit chassisnummer, de hydrolagers zijn ook geldig. Deze zijn links en rechts hetzelfde. Ik ging uit van de eerste omdat er bouwjaar 1985 stond in je eerste bericht. De hydrolagers zijn ab: 022,024, F 025325
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 01 jul 2018, 14:49

dan nu eindelijk het verhaal achter de kleurcodes...http://mbturbo.com/enginemounts-colour-codes/

kortom voor mijn 2.0e W201 m102 2.0 – 190E 2.0 – 201.024/201024

A 124 240 16 17, A 124 240 17 17, A 201 240 39 17

A1242401617 and A2912493917 is used without air conditioner (A3917 replaced with 1617)
Found colormarked brown and green

dus voor mij de bovenstaande met groene code. wagens zonder airco. ik koop deze van het merk lemforder. schijnt de betere zijn van de aftermarket merken. ook zo voor wieldraagarmkogels..

(A1242401717 Only use with air conditioner
Found colormarked as blue and “Anthracite” ofwel de modellen met airco)
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Berichtdoor MBreed » 04 jul 2018, 22:29

Ik snap niet waarom dit zo ingewikkeld is :-o . Lemförder is geloof ik ook originele montage.
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Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 05 jul 2018, 12:50

Omdat er diverse kleurcodes zijn en Mercedes die niet vermeldt in de epc....
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Berichtdoor RD500sec » 06 jul 2018, 00:05

Toch snap ik het nog steeds niet,
A124 240 16 17 kunnen een groene kleurcode hebben of een bruine code? Of hebben ze een groen-bruine code?
En de
A124 240 39 17 idem dito? Of heeft deze juist de bruine kleur en de 16 17 de groene?
Of ben ik het spoor helemaal bijster en kan je het beste in de EPC naar de partnummers kijken?
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Re: Kleurcodes en art.nr. motorsteun hydrolager W201 via EPC

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 06 jul 2018, 10:01

Met hetzelfde Mercedes nummer of dezelfde link naar een origineel nummer bij merken die je niet bij Mercedes koopt,
Blijken diverse kleurcodes te zijn. Zie de genoemde link naar Engelse site. In mijn geval met nummer...1617 kan het inderdaad een groene of bruine stip code zijn. Zo lees ik het.
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Berichtdoor MBreed » 06 jul 2018, 17:13

Toch zou ik zeggen als Mercedes een nummer opgeeft in de EPC en je zou deze bestellen bij Mercedes bestellen dat het goed zou moeten zijn. Het enige onderscheid dat zij maken is wel of geen airco :think:
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Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 07 jul 2018, 10:43

Mijn eigen ervaring is, is dat ;
Mercedes altijd toeleveranciers heeft gehad. Dus produceert veel zaken niet zelf. De bekende zijn bijv. Bosch, Sachs.
Mercedes het beleid Door de jaren heen en de toeleveranciers soms ook wijzigt....ofwel; niet alles is beter wat je bij Mercedes koopt dan sommige toeleveranciers ook aan de aftermarket leveren.
En als voorbeeld; mijn oude koeltunnelkap was veel beter en taaier dan de nieuwe die ik bij Mercedes kocht....
Mercedes is soms niet duur soms wel.
Ik heb nu dus het juiste nummer. Merk Lemforder. Ook stuurkogels van lemforder schijnen zeer goed te zijn. Over 5 jaar zal ik verslag doen Hoe de kwaliteit is ;-)
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Berichtdoor MBreed » 07 jul 2018, 19:23

Dat snap ik dat Mercedes toeleveranciers heeft. Ik bedoel meer dat Mercedes die kleurcodes niet noemt moet een reden hebben. Ik vraag me af wat dat is.
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Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 08 jul 2018, 13:28

Wat ik weet en ook in oude documentatie van Mercedes lees,
Is dat de huidige info in de epc niet altijd (nog) de toenmalige Info bevat. Misschien om het compact te houden. Zo waren er vroeger bijvoorbeeld heel veel soorten veren voor de W123. Maar deze zullen niet meer genoemd worden in het systeem. Omdat deze niet meer leverbaar zijn.
Waarschijnlijk is dus bij Mercedes het specifieke nummer motorlager maar in 1 uitvoering te krijgen
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