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Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 09 jan 2019, 21:40

Daar ik de hoogte sensor er af heb gedraaid moet de pomp opnieuw afgesteld worden, wie weet hier voor een adres die dit kan?
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor Toontje » 10 jan 2019, 09:18

je kunt eens vragen bij van de peijl in middelburg die hebben nog een bosch service punt met een oudere man
pomp is nog los toch
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 10 jan 2019, 17:17

Bedankt Toontje,
heb Terneuzen gehad en die zeggen dat doen we niet meer ook niet in Goes
zal Middelburg eens bellen
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 10 jan 2019, 17:21

Trouwens pomp zit er nog op , motor liep goed, alleen de hoogte sensor mag je nog niet eens naar kijken en staat op 1/100 mm afgesteld
te veel brandstof spoelt de olie van de cil wand en te weinig krijg je gaten in de zuiger.
en dat wil ik niet natuurlijk
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 13 jan 2019, 09:54

Hallo Kees,

Bij Keizer in Doetinchem hebben ze ook een testbank voor injectiepompen. Die gebruiken hem zeker nog.
Is wel een eindje uit de buurt voor jou.

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Maar als de motor nu gewoon goed loopt, en de bougies zijn niet zwart, dan komt er vast niet te veel benzine in de motor toch?

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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 13 jan 2019, 13:16

Bedankt Math,
je hoort er nog van , ga eerst even proberen
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 17 jun 2019, 22:50

ik heb de auto op een vermogens bank gezet en met een Lambda sonde het luchtmengsel gemeten van stationair tot vol vermogen.
door de hoogte sensor uit te draaien kregen we meer brandstof , stond te mager
En stationair bleek zij teveel brandstof te krijgen , dit kun je per klikje verdraaien achter op de pomp , alleen met stilstaande motor verstellen en weer meten, moest 3 klikjes linksom , dus magerder.
dan eens vol vermogen, tot 5750 toeren, max vermogen gemeten bij 5590 toeren 147,6 PK en zou volgens boekje 150 PK moeten zijn, maar dan in 1967, dus mag niet klagen
Hoogste koppel 207 NM bij 4376 toeren
zonder weerstand gaf de snelheidsmeter 220 km /uur aan werkelijke snelheid is dan 199 km /uur
of ze dat nog haalt , ga ik niet proberen, maar zou 190 moeten kunnen halen op de teller , is dan ongeveer 172 km /u
zal es proberen om de krommes te laten zien
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor Toontje » 18 jun 2019, 07:55

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ga nu proberen de laatste vermogens kromme en br /l verhouding te laten zien
graag commentaar, is dit goed of slecht?
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor MB280E » 01 jul 2019, 22:59

Ik weet niet wat het blok origineel moet leveren, maar de kromme ziet er wel goed uit. Is mooi zonder pieken dalen.
Brandstof verhouding daar zullen andere mensen zich over kunnen uitspreken.
280E 1982 5-bak verbruik 1/8 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8038&start=0
560SL 1985 automaat verbruik 1/... viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12374&start=0
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 06 apr 2020, 22:21

Omdat de motor toch stationair te vet liep en bij 2500 toeren te mager, was makkelijk af te lezen met de AFR meter heb ik toch besloten de injectie pomp te verwisselen.
ik had voor de reserve motor er een pomp bij dus opgestuurd naar Keizer in Doetinchem, met dank aan Math die me op deze fa verwees.
echter bij controle bleek dat er een persklep te weinig in zat en deze nauwelijks te koop en waarschijnlijk hartstikke duur zijn, dus vraag er een retour te sturen en zal ik zien of ik die zelf kan maken. het bleek een klep uit gehard staal en geslepen en dat was toch wat te moeilijk voor mij.
Ik zag echter in het Haynes boek een klep met een kogel. en zodoende heb ik er zo'n zelfde bijgemaakt van C45 en gehard.
Een kogel lager gesloopt voor 6 kogels , 6 veercupjes gemaakt en 6 veren terug gestuurd, zodat ze gelijk zijn.
Keizer heeft deze getest en goed bevonden en in de pomp gezet en alles afgesteld.
tijdje geleden de injectie pomp ontvangen en deze overgezet, wel een klerewerk , je moet de olie leidingen van de oliekoeler demonteren anders kom je er niet bij. maar tis gelukt. pomp met 250 cc olie gevuld, koelwater er weer in en goed ontlucht en alles goed door gespoten zodat alle injectie leidingen weer met bezine gevuld zijn en niet met diesel.
dan even pruttelen en liep dan goed met een AFR waarde van 14 wat een goede verbranding geeft.
ook bij het rijden zit ie tussen de 13 en 15 en dus prima , Lamda 14,7 is 1 en voor max vermogen is 12,7 perfect.
kan nog kleine afstellingen doen achter op de injectie pomp en met de aanstuurstang naar de pomp, als je deze 1/4 slag in of uitdraait zie dat direct op de AFR meter.
De oude pomp is nu ook weer terug naar Keizer om deze weer goed af te stellen.
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ps. cupje staat niet op de foto, had er maar 6 gemaakt en vergeten foto te maken
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 08 apr 2020, 12:38

Hoi Cees, indrukwekkend wat je allemaal zelf doet!

Fijn dat het weer werkt. En als je er een gedaan hebt kun je inderdaad ook meteen een tweede reserve reviseren, doe ik ook meestal als ik de smaak te pakken heb ;-)

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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 10 apr 2020, 08:09

Hier zie je de injectie pomp ingebouwd in de 250SL en draait als een zonnetje
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor Hans000 » 14 apr 2020, 21:27

Van die motor kun je eten :clap:

Ziet er top uit.
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Re: Testen brandstofinjectie pomp

Berichtdoor F3Cees » 15 apr 2020, 20:40

Zou ik niet doen Hans,
een boterham met boter er op en wordt de motor weer vies,
ik ben aan de w111 bezig om deze ook schoon te maken.
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