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toerenteller werkend krijgen.

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toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 29 mei 2015, 17:33

Hallo allemaal,

mijn toerenteller van de 300 turbodiesel doet het niet, wel gaat zo nu en dan de wijzer eens naar de 4000 toeren om vervolgens weer van zijn rust te genieten.

ik wil nu eens gaan kijken wat er stuk kan zijn en wil beginnen met de kabel die van het blok naar de grote zwarte stekker loopt op het linker binnenscherm, weet iemand hoe ik kan controleren of deze kabel stuk is of dat het probleem ergens anders zit.
door deze kabel geeft de krukas door hoeveel toeren de teller moet aangeven.

ik ben zelf helemaal niet thuis is het elektrische gebeuren dus wie het weet mag het zeggen.

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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor wasibi » 29 mei 2015, 19:13

Hallo John,

zou de stekker achter de toerenteller losmaken en kijken of te teller spanning krijgt. dan de pulsdraad naar de opnemer doormeten.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor Govert » 29 mei 2015, 19:33

De versterker (die zit in de deksel op de zwarte stekker) is het probleem. De kabel eigenlijk nooit.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 29 mei 2015, 22:26

hoi,

ik ga morgen even naar de spanning kijken achter de toerenteller Alex.
hoe kan ik die puls draad meten.

die versterker is dat te repareren of gewoon vervangen door een nieuwe/andere.

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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 01 jun 2015, 12:21

Ik zou eerst eens kijken welke toerenteller het hier betreft. Er zijn diverse mogelijkheden:
ontekings- ODP puls vanaf diagnosestekker op het schutbord (voornamelijk benzinemotoren)
toerenpuls vanaf de automatische bak afgetakt vanaf kickdown relais
hallsensor in het onderblok bij de starterkrans
pulsgever op een poelie van de multiriem (toegepast als de tt door MB achteraf is ingebouwd)
W aansluiting op de dynamo (niet standaard MB)

De toerenteller heeft wel in deze auto (ooit) gefunctioneerd ?

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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 01 jun 2015, 19:04

Als je de 300 Turbo diesel heb dan kan het zijn dat je een magneet pulsgever heb.
Er zit dan links onder de kap een zwarte dop, zoals Govert al aangeeft.
En kabel daar aan die naar een opnemer loopt die voor op de krukas pollie zit.

De zwarte dop is de versterker van de puls gever, als deze niet goed is of slecht contact maakt dan gaat de toerenteller stuiteren, of anders raar reageren.

Kijk eens even naar dit topic.

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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 02 jun 2015, 05:37

hoi,

bedankt voor de info, hier kan ik mee aan de slag.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 06 mei 2018, 18:32

Er is wel een poosje over heen gegaan maar heb inmiddels de zwarte stekker laten repareren door Rob Deckers maar heeft niet geholpen, nog geen werkende toeren teller.
Die is er iemand die toevallig zo een stekker heeft, ik hou me aanbevolen.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor MBreed » 09 mei 2018, 12:56

Hi John,

Weet je zeker dat je toerenteller wel goed is? Je kan nu wel druk opzoek zijn naar een kabel, maar als dat het niet is, zou dat zonde zijn.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 10 mei 2018, 08:47

hoi,
heb van een andere wagen een keer de stekker uitgwisseld en dan doet de toerenteller het wel.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor MBreed » 11 mei 2018, 00:30

Tja. Dan is het wel duidelijk. Misschien kan je Mercedes-Only nog proberen. Ivo heeft natuurlijk veel van dat Amerikaanse spul.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 17 feb 2019, 03:26

dat is de stekker die op de diagnose aansluiting zit, op het linker binnen scherm.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor MB280E » 17 feb 2019, 17:31

Meestal is de elektronica die in de dop gemonteerd zit defect. Er is een verbeterde versie hiervan verkrijgbaar. Moet ik eens bij ne maat navragen.
280E 1982 5-bak verbruik 1/8 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8038&start=0
560SL 1985 automaat verbruik 1/... viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12374&start=0
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor 300tdt » 17 feb 2019, 19:28

De dop heb ik ook al op gevuld maar geen succes.

Oke is goed , vind wel fijn als hij het gewoon weer doet.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 27 feb 2019, 16:11

Ik heb heel simpel al de Siliconen prut uit de dop verwijderd.
Daarna de hele print opnieuw door gesoldeerd.

Probleem verholpen.
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Re: toerenteller werkend krijgen.

Berichtdoor MB280E » 27 feb 2019, 22:01

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