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Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Sjrien » 13 jun 2019, 15:59

Heren,

Al een hele tijd loop ik te prutsen met 230G. Sinds de apk en een rondje in het terrein krijg ik de W460 niet meer goed aan het lopen. Ondertussen al bij meerdere “specialisten” langs geweest maar helaas zonder succes. Conclusie is dat de motor verzuipt zodra hij warm is.

Ik zoek iemand die mijn carburateur kan afstellen en evnt. Reviseren. OF een carb. om te proberen zodat ik weet waar het probleem zit (tegen vergoeding uiteraard).

Wie kan mij helpen of weet een oplossing. Regio Zuid-Limburg
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 14 jun 2019, 12:31

Ik begreep er al niets van toen ik dit las vanmorgen over gesloten?? 8-) en ik dacht nog, ik heb hem helemaal niet gesloten.

Ik had het onderwerp niet gesloten maar verplaatst omdat het in een rubriek algemeen stond.
Ik dacht er goed aan te doen het te verplaatsen naar Techniek, maar verplaatste het per vergissing naar
Technisch forumhulp.

Hij staat nu in de goeie rubriek. Omdat het om een carburateur gaat heb ik de vraag in een rubriek gezet van oudere types.


Dus niets aan de hand, en brand los met de hulp aan die man.
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor resultit » 14 jun 2019, 20:14

In de bijlage een zip bestand met daarin een 6 tal Word documenten een complete handleiding voor het reviseren afstellen van een Stromberg carburateur misschien heb je er wat aan.

Grt Peter
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor MBreed » 14 jun 2019, 21:39

Fabrieksafstellingen zijn een groffe richtlijn. Alles is ruim 30 jaar oud, dus het werkt allemaal niet meer zo als toen het nieuw was. Begin bij fabrieksinstellingen en stel dan af tot hij mooi loopt en ook goed trekt. Dat is de belangrijkste richtlijn.
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Sjrien » 14 jun 2019, 22:36

momenteel start hij wel maar valt meteen uit zodra ik aan het gas kom. Er hangt ook meteen een sterke benzine lucht rondom. Is het realistisch dat de naald is versleten? Waardoor teveel benzine erlangs stroomt. Goed zou zijn als ik wist wat de fabrieksinstellingen waren.
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 14 jun 2019, 23:00

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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor resultit » 15 jun 2019, 13:56

Nog een poging allen een zip bestand werkt niet nu losse doc bestanden 10x :)
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Gold Boarder
Gold Boarder
 
Berichten: 291
Geregistreerd: 05 feb 2008, 16:45
Woonplaats: Oss
Type wagen: 200D
Bouwjaar: 1977
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Don » 15 jun 2019, 19:15

als je er echt niet uitkomt; niet in de buurt van Zuid-Limburg, maar wel specialisten op gebied van carburateurs : BCCP.
ik ken ze verder niet hoor, maar dit adres heb ik altijd onthouden voor het geval ik er zelf niet meer uit kom met mijn carb.


Alternatief is zelfstudie, heb ik ook maar gedaan omdat bij mij de motor ook elke keer beroerd liep als er een monteur aan had gezeten. Geeft wel een extra dimensie aan de hobby als je je eigen carburateur kan tunen.
Don
 


Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Sjrien » 20 jul 2019, 07:55

Uiteindelijk de carburateur opgestuurd naar Bosch service Kuppers in Linnich, Duitsland. Heel nette en beleefde mensen die je zeer professioneel helpen. Zij hebben mijn Pierburg getest en zeiden dat er diverse mankementen waren. Het geheel reviseren en met enkele nieuwe onderdelen zou het duurder worden dan een nieuwe Pierburg. Mijn keuze was dus snel gemaakt.

Zojuist de nieuwe carburateur gemonteerd. Helaas is het geen plug en play. Ik merk wel verbetering maar Staganair lopen lukt nog niet. Als ik de Co schroef helemaal opendraai, en gas met de pedaal geef, blijft hij mooi lopen. Meer dicht doet hij Regelmaatig puffen en proeste of zelfs helemaal niet starten. Waar moet ik beginnen? Ik durf niet teveel te draaien overal want dan ben ik weer terug bij af. Ook ben ik niet zeker of al die kleine slangetjes op de bovenkant juist zijn aangesloten. Heeft hier iemand een overzicht van of een foto van een M15 230G (die wel loopt ;-)).
Sjrien
Fresh Boarder
Fresh Boarder
 
Berichten: 9
Geregistreerd: 12 jun 2019, 18:04
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Type wagen: Ander type
Bouwjaar: 1983
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee
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Re: Pierburg carb. Reviseren / afstellen

Berichtdoor Sjrien » 20 jul 2019, 07:58

Heel mooi!
Bijlagen
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