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Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor Dompie » 01 apr 2021, 18:57

Dag klassieker liefhebbers,

heb deze week aan mijn 380 SL beziggeweest. Het is een Californië model uit 1984 met M 116 962 motor. Deze heeft al de dubbele distributieketting. Heb de koppelstukjes van de olieleidingen boven de nokkenassen vervangen. Deze waren steenhard geworden. Ze waten wel nog goed op hun plek. De smering was tot nu toe nog in orde. Ook de dichtingen van de kleppendeksels vernieuwd, was ook wel tijd. De kettinggeleiders zijn ook nog heel. Maar mijn vraag is, wat is de maximum kettingrek dat deze motoren mag hebben? Al een aan het zoeken geweest maar niet direkt gevonden.

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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 02 apr 2021, 13:56

http://w126club.nl/post152844.html?hili ... 17#p152844

Hier wordt gezegd: tussen 11 en 15 graden is acceptabel, daarboven vervangen.
Zelf zou ik niet wachten tot de 15 graden, boven de 10 graden zou ik overgaan tot vervangen, of iig inplannen.
Ik ben benieuwd wat jij hebt gemeten?
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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor iwemalpg » 03 apr 2021, 15:48

Om te zien of de ketting versleten is zijn er de volgende indicatoren:

- de ontsteking staat op tijd en de verdeler fixeerbout staat bijna aan het einde van het slobgat.

- zet de krukas op TDC en kijk op de rechter nokkenas hoeveel hij afwijkt van het merkteken

- probeer de nokkenasketting te lichten van het nokkenastandwiel; kun je hem meer dan de halve ketting dikte omhoog halen dan is de ketting versleten.

Het is beter om de ketting vroegtijdig te vervangen anders worden de tanden op het nokkenastandwiel asymmetrisch.
Als dit het geval i moet je alle distributie tandwielen vervangen!!
Dit is veel werk.
Kijk ook naar de geleiders en vervang deze bij twijfel ook.

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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor Dompie » 03 apr 2021, 19:37

Dag Richard,
ik meet een 8° a 9° rek. Dus is zowat tegen de maximum eigenlijk.... Ketting zit wel strak op de tandwielen, en de tandwielen zijn ook nog prima. Dan zal het in de toekomst vervangen worden, en ineens de bovenste kettinggeleiders maar mee vervangen. Dan kunnen we met een gerust hart rijden ;-) Bedankt voor het opzoeken Richard.
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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor iwemalpg » 05 apr 2021, 13:17

Je kunt van boven 4 geleider vervangen.
Waaronder ook die van de kettingspanner.
Reviseer ook de kettingspanner.

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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 06 apr 2021, 16:00

Hoi Samen,

En hoe zit het met de onderste kettinggeleiders? Hiervoor moet veel meer uit elkaar worden gehaald of niet? Het boek spreekt over uitbouwen van een plaat aan de voorkant?

Wat betreft de olieleidingkjes van de nokkenas. Breken deze niet af bij uitbouw? Als je de steunen en nokkenassen op de plek laat, moet je dan brokjes uit de gaatjes peuteren?

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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor MB280E » 06 apr 2021, 23:19

Voor de onderste moet de voorkant open. Dan is de kans dat de carterpakking en het voorste stuk van de koppakkingen afbreekt. Het voorste stuk zit gespannen tussen de Carter en cilinderkoppen.

Betreffende de olieleiding
Als de stukjes afbreken dan kan je de afgebroken stukjes eenvoudig uit de opening schroeven met een gepaste schroevendraaier. In de opening zit er namelijk schroefdraad.
Let wel op er zijn meerdere varianten in deze kunststof koppelingen.
280E 1982 5-bak verbruik 1/8 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8038&start=0
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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor Dompie » 07 apr 2021, 18:08

Dag allen,
die clipjes van de olieleiding breken bijna allemaal af. Maar met een klein schroevedraaiertje en een pincet gaat het prima. Je kan de brokjes dan mooi uit het oliekanaal vissen.
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Re: Distributieketting M 116

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 07 apr 2021, 19:55

Bedankt allebei!
Ik heb de olieleidingclipjes besteld (2 setjes van febi 11549) en een haffel kettinggeleiders, 5 stuks totaal: 2x 10417, 10416, 10413 en 10414 alles van Febi Bilstein.

Ben benieuwd wat ik kan vervangen.

Ik heb inmiddels ook vernomen dat de onderste geleiders niet zo kritisch zijn omdat deze niet tussen de ketting vallen als ze breken.

Groeten Math (die alweer op de zaken vooruit loopt omdat ik de auto nog niet eens thuis heb staan....)
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