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W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor Mathijs » 13 sep 2022, 21:16

Hallo,

Omdat mijn W123 230E automaat uit 1982 stationair niet helemaal lekker loopt, wil ik de bobine vervangen. De rest van de ontsteking (bougies + kabels + verdelerkap + rotor) zijn ca 10dkm geleden nog vervangen, bobine nog niet.

Volgens de grote (binnenlandse en buitenlandse) onderdelensites zou de U1076 van NGK moeten passen, echter ik krijg de stekker van de kabel die naar verdelerkap loopt er niet goed in. Hij blijft los zitten en wiebelt er zo uit. De koperen huls, waar de stekker in hoort te klemmen, zit bij de oude bobine ook veel dieper.

Iemand bekend met dit probleem?

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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor MBreed » 14 sep 2022, 12:09

Daarom moet je ontstekingsdelen ook altijd van Bosch of eventueel Beru bestellen. Dat is gemaakt voor Mercedes-Benz. De rest is universeel spul. Waarschijnlijk moet je een andere stekker aan de bougiekabel zetten. Zou je even moeten kijken of NGK die aanbiedt.
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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » 14 sep 2022, 15:38

even een messing busje laten draaien, opgelost!
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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor drieske » 14 sep 2022, 18:43

NGK dop erop.
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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 16 sep 2022, 10:19

Bobine terug sturen en de juiste bestellen, niet alleen de aansluiting, maar ook de interne weerstand is belangrijk, mogelijk is die bij de NGK ook anders.

Op de websites past alles, ook gloeibougies in je benzine motor.
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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor Mathijs » 19 sep 2022, 08:46

Dank voor de reacties! Heb een Beru besteld, dat gaat hopelijk werken.

Terugsturen gaat niet meer helaas, had 'm al zeker een jaar liggen. Zal kijken of ik hem via Marktplaats kan verkopen.

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Re: W123 230E bobine past niet

Berichtdoor Mathijs » 08 nov 2022, 22:28

Om het verhaal nog even compleet te maken: heb een BERU besteld, een ZS569. Deze had dezelfde aansluiting als de NGK U1076 die ik al had. Heb ook een NGK 44138 kabel (van bobine naar verdelerkap) besteld. Ook met die kabel deed de NGK het niet. De BERU bobine in combinatie met de NGK kabel werkt echter goed, nu een paar honderd kilometer mee gereden.

Heb voor de volledigheid de spoelweerstanden van alledrie de bobines nog eens nagemeten:

Bosch 0221118307 (dit is de oude die uit de auto komt)
Primair: 0,7 Ohm; secundair: 9,40 kOhm

BERU ZS569
Primair: 0,8 - 0,9 Ohm; secundair: 7,86 kOhm

NGK U1076
Primair: 0,7 - 0,8 Ohm; secundair: 7,40 kOhm

Zoals te zien geen gekke waardes, snap dus nog niet waarom die NGK het niet deed.

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