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stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 200D

Berichtdoor Jim » 02 sep 2007, 10:21

Hallo!
Mijn 200D draait meestal heel stabiel stationair.. aan het 'wiegen' te voelen zo'n 800 toeren p/m schat ik.
Maar af en toe, na lange ritten bij flink warme motor is het stationair toerental merkbaar hoger. (en ja de koudestart-knop staat natuurlijk helemaal links) De temp. blijft normaal, iets voorbij de 80°.
Op zich niet zo'n probleem, maar dan sta je aan de rode lichten wel knullig diesel te verbranden natuurlijk. Het probleem was opgelost na het vervangen van de koppeling + oliewissels, maar begint nu terug de kop op te steken. Toeval of niet? Iemand een ideetje?
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Govert » 02 sep 2007, 11:06

Ik hoop dat je bedoelt dat je koude startknop helemaal naar rechts (met de klok mee) is gedraaid.
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Berichtdoor Jim » 02 sep 2007, 11:50

Ja hoor Govert, dat bedoel ik... Rechts dus! het was nog vroeg in de ochtend toen ik het bericht heb gepost ;)

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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 200D

Berichtdoor henklith » 02 sep 2007, 12:26

Ik heb wel eens gehoord, (maar dat is bij jou hopelijk niet het geval) dat door geringe compressie als gevolg van behoorlijke motor slijtage de motorolie langs de cilinderwanden mee gaan doen met de verbranding, en wellicht dat daar dus een hoger toerental door ontstaat.
Maar ik kijk voor dit probleem toch zeker ook in de richting van Willem en Boy, zij weten alles van diesels.
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Govert » 02 sep 2007, 20:40

Het is wel zo dat de dieselmotor wel wat enthousiaster zal draaien als hij goed warm is, simpelweg omdat wegens de grotere hitte meer dieselolie zal verbranden. Bij een koude motor zal een gedeelte condenseren langs de cylinderwanden of niet tot ontbranding komen in de cylinder.

Meten is weten, als je je echt zorgen maakt over het toerental.
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Jim » 04 sep 2007, 09:54

Hey Govert, je hebt gelijk dat een warme diesel wat sneller draait. Ik heb ergens nog wel een mechanische toerentalmeter, maar die is zelfs niet nodig... je merkt wel duidelijk dat hij veel te snel draait.
Het probleem ligt ook niet bij een vastzittende gaskabel ofzo (heb ik al gecheckt)

En Henk, ik hoop ook dat je ongelijk hebt ;)
In dit geval zou hij wel wat olie moeten verbruiken dacht ik zo, en dat doet hij niet. Halve liter op 1500km lijkt me niet te veel voor een 200D met minstens 250.000 km.

Dieselpomp misschien?

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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Govert » 04 sep 2007, 09:59

Als je een toerenteller hebt, dan zou ik zeggen, stel je stationair toerental af volgens de regels van de kunst.

Dieselpompen gaan niet zo vaak stuk.
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 200D

Berichtdoor Toontje » 04 sep 2007, 12:15

hoi hoi
heb je toevalig een blok met zo'n lucht filter en al die stangetjes da is het best mogelijk dat je dat een keer moet afstellen heb ik ook gedaan en loopt dan als een zonnetje ik hoef mijn stationair schroef eigenlijk nooit te gebruiken aleen als het heel koud is
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 200D

Berichtdoor Jim » 06 sep 2007, 17:42

nee! heb de andere variant met grote ronde luchtfilter en veel minder stangetjes...
enneuh stationair toerental staat prima afgesteld hoor. Alleen af en toe slaat ie op hol. ???
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 09 sep 2007, 21:25

Toontje, kan je uitleggen hoe dat gaat, dat afstellen van die stangetjes?
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Topasbrauner » 10 sep 2007, 09:17

Ja idd graag uitleggen, volgens mij moet er wel een meter in de uitlaat voordat je hieraan begint. Toon? Willem?

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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 2

Berichtdoor Govert » 10 sep 2007, 09:38

Jongens, dit topic gaat over het merkwaardig stijgende toerental van Jim's 200D. Vinnievw: Voor het afstellen van de stangen op de luchtinlaat moet je maar een apart topic aanmaken.
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Re:stationair toerental stijgt bij warme motor - 200D

Berichtdoor Toontje » 11 sep 2007, 07:54

hoi hoi
het afstellen staat beschreven in de werkplaats cd is een te lang verhaal om hier te typen en gaat veelal op het gehoor
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