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Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Herman250 » 10 aug 2011, 19:17

Hoi,

Ik heb mijn 250 nu zo'n 2 jaar in bezit en weet niet wanneer voor het laatst de olie van het differentieel is vervangen. De auto heeft 220D km gereden en heeft altijd keurig onderhoud volgens het boekje gehad. Is het verstandig deze olie te vervangen? En hoe vervang ik het?

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Govert » 10 aug 2011, 19:50

Differentieelolie vervangen is bij de W123 verdwenen uit de reguliere onderhoudscyclus, maar het kan wel eens verstandig zijn om te vervangen na al die tijd. Vroeger werd er om de 60.000 km vervangen.

Differentieel warm rijden (25 km of meer).
vulbout losdraaien met imbus 14 mm. Op de onderstaande foto is het de bovenste opening, waar een beetje olie uit stroomt.



Dan de aftapbout losdraaien, op de bovenstaande foto is dat waar de imbus insteekt.

Als die eruit wordt gedraaid, komt er ongeveer een liter olie uitlopen, dus je hebt een bak nodig om het op te vangen. Nog mooier is als je een trechter met een zeef gebruikt, dan kan je zien of er ijzerdeeltjes meekomen.

Het beste werkt het met een brug of smeerkuil, maar oprijbokken gaat ook (altijd bokken gebruiken, nooit alleen een krik).

De bouten zitten vaak vast, waardoor je een wringijzer of verlengingen nodig hebt om het los te draaien.

Aftapbout weer vastdraaien (daarvoor gebruik je geen verlenging of wringijzer). Er zit wel eens een ring tussen, kan je eventueel vernieuwen.

Door de vulopening ongeveer een liter SAE 90 of SAE 85W90 hypoide differentieelolie vullen, totdat de olie uit de vulopening loopt. Het vullen gaat het beste met een pomp of cardanspuit, maar het kan ook met een assistent en een slangetje. Sommige flessen hebben een mooie vulspuit.

Vulplug weer erin draaien.

Oude olie naar de milieustraat brengen.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Hulzie » 10 aug 2011, 20:31

Hee een super goed onderwerp!!

Een onderhoudt waar velen niet aan zullen denken.

Ik zal ze ook eens aftappen en weer volspuiten, de juiste olie heb ik genoeg staan, dat is cardan olie die ook in de motoren zitten!

Thanks Govert! Toppie! Maat van de Imbus toevallig ook bekend? Ik kan ze met een slagsleutel n.l. losmaken, moet ik even de juiste dop meenemen van mijn werk.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Govert » 10 aug 2011, 20:48

14 mm voor de imbus.

Let er wel op dat het hypoïde cardanolie is, en niet gewone versnellingsbakolie.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Hulzie » 10 aug 2011, 20:59

Bedankt,

Ik heb motoren met cardanaandrijving, vandaar dat ik die olie heb. SAE 80 / 90 ofziets is dat.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Herman250 » 12 aug 2011, 21:31

Hoi Govert,

Bedankt voor je zeer duidelijke uitleg! Hier kan ik verder mee. Lijkt me goed te doen, dus dat wordt binnenkort vervangen.

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor JaapW114 » 13 aug 2011, 00:07

Het is handig om eerst te proberen of je de bovenste imbus los krijgt, heel vervelend als je het differentieel hebt afgetapt en er dan achterkomt dat de vuldop niet los wil.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Toontje » 13 aug 2011, 06:02

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Hulzie » 13 aug 2011, 06:38

Ik heb een setje kracht-imbusdoppen grote maten via mijn werk regelen 11 t/m 19 !!
Blinde deal tegen twee uurtjes overwerk, zat op klus en die moest toch af, komen anders bij de verlofuren op, ik vondt deze deal leuker, ik weet ook niet wat ze anders kostten, zwarte zijn het van Gedore.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor JaapW114 » 13 aug 2011, 14:54

Zelf heb ik ook zo'n Gedore imbusdoppenset, maar wat een goed alternatief is voor grote maten, zijn koppelmoeren. Dit zijn hoge moeren om draadeinden te koppelen, voor bijvoorbeeld draadeind M10, heeft de moer een sleutelwijdte 17 mm. Dus om imbus 17 los te maken, neem je een koppelmoer M10, plaatst deze in dop 17 op de ratel en het deel wat uit de dop van de ratel steekt past in de imbus. Alleen voor 14 mm imbussen zoals die van het differentieel wordt het lastig, 14 mm is een standaard sleutelwijdte, maar voor veel andere maten is dit een goedkoop alternatief.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Govert » 13 aug 2011, 15:36

Je hebt ook de "gewone" imbussleutel, daar kan je een stuk pijp op zetten om de zaak los te krijgen. Er zijn ook lange imbussleutels, dan heb je de pijp meestal niet nodig.

De olie van de handbak vervangen gaat op dezelfde manier en ook met imbus 14 mm, alleen is de juiste olie daar ATF (Dexron II of III) of handbakolie. Wel kan bij sommige modellen de ruimte in de tunnel klein zijn, waardoor een gewone imbussleutel er niet inpast. Een imbusdop gaat dan beter, eventueel met een ringsleutel (eerst ringsleutel op de dop, dan dop in de vulplug). Op de ringsleutel kan je dan weer een stuk pijp zetten.

Je hebt er ook een speciale (MB-)sleutel voor, die heb ik wel eens gezien. Daar zijn waarschijnlijk ook wel universele varianten van.
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor 280 '76 » 27 jan 2015, 23:10

Het differentieel van m'n winterbenz maakt een schurend geluid (wat na een kleine 4 ton natuurlijk niet raar is) dus ik wil de olie gaan vervangen om de levensduur nog wat te rekken. Nu las ik vroeger wisselend positieve verhalen over Slick 50. Ook op het MercedesForum.nl/be lees ik daar positieve berichten over:
http://www.mercedesforum.nl/forum/viewt ... 2&start=30

Is er hier iemand die ervaring heeft met Slick 50 of vergelijkbare producten?
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor 280 '76 » 29 jan 2015, 22:00

Ik ken de STP stickers nog wel. Heb die jarenlang op een boekenkast als puber gehad, samen met allerlei andere stickers :grin:

Ik ben gisteren bij een vriend van me langs geweest, gespecialiseerd in citroen en al generatie op generatie garagist. Die liet me een liter classic kroon olie voor het differentieel halen + een tube Wynn's H.P.L.S. Transmission Treatment, ook een wat stroperig spul wat tevens zweten of lichte lekkage verhelpt. Daarmee zou het diff het nog wel eens een tijd in wat minder luidruchtige toestand uit kunnen houden.
Van het weekend de boel maar eens aftappen en opnieuw vullen. Voor die twee tientjes (weet niet wat het zonder korting kost maar dat zal misschien een tientje schelen) kan ik me geen buil vallen lijkt me.

Ik ben benieuwd...
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor Zozo » 29 jan 2015, 22:12

Ja die wynns heb ik ook nog, rode tube wit stroperig spul.. Toen in de stuurbekrachtiging van de Volvo gedumpt om misschien tijdelijk een lekje te dichten.. Niet echt geholpen overigens, lek of druk was waarschijnlijk te groot. Maar het lek ook nooit echt kunnen vinden, waarschijnlijk ergens in de slang, want het liep nooit leeg genoeg om de bekrachtiging weg te laten vallen. Was een vreemde.. Volvo is ook al weg nu. :dry: . Was niets meer te halen op LPG en kapotte Kjet en nog 4 jaar MBR te gaan. Helaas pindakaas.

Hopelijk helpt t bij jou.. Ben ook wel benieuwd naar de bevindingen.. :)
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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor 280 '76 » 29 jan 2015, 22:49

Ik heb geen last van lekkage Zozo. Ik denk alleen dat het diff van de T behoorlijk schuurt (kleine 4 ton achter de tandjes) en wil eens kijken in hoeverre het geluid nog terug te brengen is. Uiteindelijk zal het aan vervanging toe zijn.

Maar ik laat wel even weten wat het spulletje doet.

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Re: Vervangen differentieel olie

Berichtdoor 280 '76 » 31 jan 2015, 19:17

De olie is ververst en het tubetje erbij gedaan. Het loopt hoorbaar soepeler maar de vraag is hoelang. Al met al de moeite waard.
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