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Roest en een kogelrubber

Alles omtrent de carrosserie en de buitenkant, zoals bijv. spuiten, roest, plaatwerk, lassen maar ook spiegels, rubbers en chroom, ruitenwissers etc.

Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Chaco » 16 dec 2019, 12:18

Hallo,

Onlangs heb ik gezien dat er een rubber van een kogel waarschijnlijk aan vervanging toe is. Deze zit vlak boven de voorband. Alleen weet ik niet hoe dit onderdeel heet (om een nieuwe te bestellen).

Ook heb ik een roestplek aan de rechterzijkant die ik wil gaan behandelen. Weet iemand toevallig of dit een apk afkeurpunt is? Het zit bij de rechterachterdeur en een stukje achterscherm. Tips hierbij zijn ook welkom :)

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Rubber dat denk ik aan vervanging toe is
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor resultit » 16 dec 2019, 15:36

Roest lijkt me voorlopig nog geen apk afkeur, het mooiste is om er een hoek in te (laten) lassen.

Die rubbers vervangen is nog een flinke klus er zijn op Youtube 10 tallen fimpjes te vinden hoe je dat zelf kunt doen zoek maar eens op W123 front suspension rebuild,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7uN9tJjAYw
In de meeste gevallen heb je er wel een verenspanner voor nodig om de voorste veer te verwijderen en de draagarm te demonteren om daarna de bussen en rubbers te vervangen.
De vraag is dan als toch alles los is kun je misschien beter meteen alles vervangen rubbers fusee kogels , stuurkogels e.d dan heb je daar de komende jaren geen omkijken meer naar.

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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Luke » 16 dec 2019, 16:42

De roest zou ik zo snel mogelijk aanpakken, als je eenmaal begint te prikken valt het eigenlijk altijd tegen. Je kunt overzetdelen kopen en passend maken. Hier zit dan weer een lipje aan wat je op de dorpel kunt lassen. Het nieuwe gedeelte dan niet over het oude heenzetten, dan krijg je juist weer roestvorming, maar het oude metaal eruit slijpen.

Dat hoesje voor de bovenste fuseekogel (weet niet of je hem officieel zo mag noemen) heb ik ook vervangen en gewoon bij auto elektra gekocht, incl nieuwe klemringetjes. Wel even nieuw vet in de kogel doen. Ik heb het zonder veerspanner gedaan, maar had wel fuseevorken nodig.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 16 dec 2019, 19:34

Hoi Chaco,

Helaas denk ik dat die hele hoek is weggeroest :unsure: Er zit al plamuur op en als je dat gaat schoonmaken zit er waarschijnlijk een groot gat onder. Is dit de enige plek op de auto? Dan is het misschien begonnen met een kleine schade.

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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 16 dec 2019, 21:26

Ik heb de indruk dat die hoek al eens wat mee gemaakt heeft. De vormen van randen en overgangen zijn niet origineel. Er is denk ik al heel wat aan weg geboetseerd... :shock:

De spatbordrand is niet gauw een apk punt, maar de koker naar de c-zuil wel. De kriksteun zit er onder, het draagt de achterkant van de auto, belangrijk knooppunt.

Dat rubbertje is inderdaad een kogelhoesje van de bovenste fusee. Als het kogeltje geen speling heeft volstaat het vervangen van het rubbertje. Dat kogeltje is niet los vervangbaar, dus dan zou dat hele draagarmpje vervangen moeten worden.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Chaco » 16 dec 2019, 22:39

Allereerst dank voor jullie reacties!

@resultit: Je bedoelt dat ik een zelfde orgineel hoekje van een W123 neem en die erin laat lassen?
Bij een garage uit de buurt is me verteld dat het rubber er slecht aan toe is en dat ik het zeker zal moeten vervangen. Ik hoefde voor het vervangen van het rubbertje de draagarm niet los te halen volgens hen, maar dat klopt dus niet. Ook vertelden ze dat dit rubbertje en de roestplek zeker een apk afkeur zullen zijn, terwijl ik een tijdje terug bij de rdw ben geweest voor een keuring waarbij ze er niets over gezegd hebben ( in dezelfde staat destijds). Bedankt voor het filmpje trouwens nog!

@luke: Ik heb het telkens uitgesteld, maar wil er inderdaad zo snel mogelijk wat aan gaan doen. Ik neem de tip mee van het oude metaal er helemaal uit slijpen. Fuseevork zal ik zeer waarschijnlijk wel nodig hebben, was ook nodig in het filmpje wat resultit heeft gestuurd.

@weizengelb: het kan zijn dat de hele hoek weggeroest is, ik durf er eerlijk gezegd niet doorheen te prikken. Dit is inderdaad voor nu de enige roestplek op de auto Ik heb de auto zo aangeschaft dus weet niet precies wat daar gebeurd is. Het kan begonnen zijn met een kleine schade. Ik denk niet dat er al op geplamuurd is, tenminste dat heb ik niet gezien.

@jantjev8: hmm dat is raar, de andere kant van de auto ziet er hetzelfde uit, maar dan zonder roest. De roest loopt ook niet door naar onder, maar echt alleen wat er op de foto te zien is. En het is ook het makkelijkst om het hele draagarmpje in z'n geheel te vervangen? Als ik maar niet opnieuw de banden moet laten uitlijnen.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor resultit » 16 dec 2019, 22:58

Ik zou de auto eerst zo naar de APK keuring brengen misschien is die toch wel goed zo en anders krijg je de kans om de auto binnen 2 weken gratis te laten herkeuren laat de keurmeester een beetje merken dat je de auto zelf wilt repareren als er wat aan mankeert, zorg ervoor dat kleine dingen goed zijn zoals de verlichting, ruiten sproeier, ruitenwisser bladen als ze eenmaal beginnen met schrijven .....

Een buitenste spatbord rand kun je zo kopen daar kun je dan een hoek van afhalen en inlassen misschien dat je dan nog een stukje te kort bij de dorpel komt maar dat is eenvoudig bij te maken met een stukje plaat.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Chaco » 17 dec 2019, 01:55

Bedankt voor de tips!
Dit is wat ik gevonden had op autodoc, dat is denk ik wat je bedoelt?
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 17 dec 2019, 08:25

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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Toontje » 17 dec 2019, 09:14

mmmm bekende punten hahahhahahaha als je er wat meer van wil zien moet je op facebook maar ff zoeken naar freubelpaleis ben toevallig met zulke hoeken bezig
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Toontje » 17 dec 2019, 09:15

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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 17 dec 2019, 11:27

Als ik de foto bekijk gaat het niet om het rubbertje wat om de kogel zit maar om het rubber tussen de draagarm en de stabilisatorstang. Dan heb je geen kogeltrekker nodig, tenminste, als het rubber er uit geschoven kan worden zonder de draagarm te demonteren.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor Chaco » 21 nov 2022, 23:09

Heeft iemand enig idee waar ik zulke aftermarket stofhoesje/ kogelhoesje kan vinden voor de kogels net boven de voorbanden? Ik heb me rotgezocht maar kan zelf niks vinden van de maat die ik nodig heb. Plaatselijke auto onderdelen shops hadden niets soortgelijks liggen helaas. Zelf heb ik het oude hoesje gemeten en kwam op de volgende binnendiameters: boven +-30mm en onder +-11mm. Scheelt al gauw een hoop geld als ik er een aantal vervang en natuurlijk ook voor alle andere liefhebbers op dit forum.
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Re: Roest en een kogelrubber

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 22 nov 2022, 13:17

https://www.womiprofessional.com/nl/wer ... ogelhoezen

Je zou hier kunnen kijken.
Een zak met elastiekjes die ook wordt aangeboden is raadzaam om mee te bestellen, die kun je gebruiken om de hoesjes vast te klemmen, zowel de grote als de kleine diameter.
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