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Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 18 feb 2021, 22:04

Ik heb zo goed als alles vernieuwd van de remmen. Ik probeer deze nu te ontluchten. Maar gaat precies niet zo goed. Ik heb zo een vacuüm potje die werkt met compressor. Er blijft precies licht uitkomen. Uiteraard vul ik het potje op de rem pomp constant bij. Doe ik iets fout? Of duurt dit gewoon heeeeeel lang... kan er iets fout zijn in het plastieken potje op de rem pomp ? Alvast bedankt voor hulp en info.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 18 feb 2021, 23:03

Met zo’n vacuüm ontluchter heb ik minder goede ervaringen.
Ik gebruik liever een apparaat waarmee je onder druk de vloeistof vanaf het reservoir in het systeem pompt.

Zitten de remklauwen achter goed om? Met de ontluchting boven?
Zitten alle leidingen en slangen goed vast?
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor John.M » 18 feb 2021, 23:12

Het ontluchten van het remsysteem gaat het beste, en het makkelijkste, met een overdruk systeem!
Ik heb dit zelf in elkaar gefabriceerd met een plantenspuit, een dop van het remvloeistof reservoir, daar een gaatje in gemaakt en met een slang koppelingetje aan de plantenspuit gemaakt. Kosten iets van € 12 of zo
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Dan de remvloeistof in de plantenspuit, die pomp je licht op druk, dan bij de remklauwen wiel voor wiel de plunjer lossen en de vloeistof even doorlaten lopen tot er puur schone vloeistof uit komt.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 18 feb 2021, 23:27

Ja denk dat alles juist zit en goed is aangesloten.
Ik ga testen met de planten spuit. Bedankt voor de duidelijk uitleg en foto’s.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor afrite_a4 » 19 feb 2021, 00:07

Ik gebruik de Eezibleed; werkt bij mij fantastisch. Nu je toch bezig bent, vergeet niet om ook de remolie te verversen van de koppelingscilinder (aangesloten op de versnellingsbak). Deze wordt vaak vergeten. Elke twee jaar ververs ik het hele systeem.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Jeroen » 19 feb 2021, 07:29

Ik heb zowel een Eezibleed als een vacuumontluchter.

Het probleem met de vacuumontluchter is dat als je de nippel op de klauw losdraait er ook lucht via het schroefdraad wordt ingezogen. Daarmee wordt de effectiviteit een stuk minder. Eenvoudig op te lossen door wat teflon tape erom te draaien.

Ik heb ook nog een keer een ander probleem ervaren, wellicht even bij jou te controleren. Mijn vacuumontlucht komt met een vulpotje wat je op zijn kop in het remvloeistof reservoir zet. Dus pijpje, vloeistof in het vulpotje blijft erin staan totdat het niveau in het remvloeistof reservoir onder het pijpje komt, dan vult ie vanzelf het niveau aan.

Waar je even op moet letten is dat het pijpje niet te diep in het remvloeistofreservoir steekt. In dit reservoir zit een schotje wat het reservoir in twee gescheiden ruimte verdeeld. Dit ivm met het realiseren van twee gescheiden remcircuits. Je vult het reservoir in een van die twee ruimten, als deze vol is loopt ie over in de tweede.

Als het pijpje van het vulpotje te diep steekt, vult de eerste gescheiden ruimte niet volledig en loopt dus niet over naar de tweede ruimte. Het duurde even voordat ik er achter kwam, soms is het lastig te zien. Maar het pijpje moet hoog genoeg in het reservoir steken zodat beide ruimtes worden gevuld. Zoniet dan zal je steeds op een van de remcircuit (voor/achter) lucht blijven trekken!!

Hier kun je mijn vacuumontluchtavontuur nog even nalezen (in het Engels helaas) even scrollen voorbij de fietsreparatie. Dan beschrijf ik dit probleem.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-y ... er-14.html

Nog even een tip: Mocht je toch over stappen op een eezibleed of iets of druk, check dan even de bevestiging van de slang van het reservoir naar de koppelingscilinder. Normaal staat daar geen druk op, bij mij zat er geen slangenklem op. toen ik de boek ooit eens een keer onder druk zetten sprong the slang eraf en de remvloeistof mij om de oren

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor afrite_a4 » 19 feb 2021, 09:32

Een kleine aanvulling op de tips van Jeroen over Eezibleed:
- om safe te spelen gebruik ik altijd 1bar max ipv het geadviseerde 1,4
- zet, tijdelijk, een slangklem op de slang van het reservoir, als je twijfelt over de staat van die slang.
- dit is een goed moment om het reservoir los te maken en een goed wasbeurt te geven.
- het allerbelangrijkste, want hier gaat het vaak mis en wil je zo’n ding nooit meer gebruiken: maak zowel de vulopening van het reservoir als het passende deksel van de Eezibleed goed schoon, vet vrij en droog. Op deze manier krijg je een perfecte afdichting en lekt er geen olie langs het deksel!!!!

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 19 feb 2021, 22:37

Bedankt voor deze mooie uitleg. Vandaag een eezibleed gaan halen. Nog niet getest. Hopelijk meer succes dan met mijn vacuüm toestel.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 19 feb 2021, 22:41

Nog een kleine vraag. Als ik de eezibleed gaan aansluiten op de dop hoe kan de lucht die nog in het potje zit er dan uit?
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 19 feb 2021, 22:43

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor afrite_a4 » 20 feb 2021, 02:51

Bekijk eerste dit filmpje: erg handig.

Bedek preventief de ruimte rondom het reservoir met oude doeken en keukenpapier en zorg voor een emmer vol met water en afwasmiddel voor als het mis gaat. Remolie is erg agressief.
Ik maak vooraf het reservoir leeg; dat hoeft niet via de remnippels. En om niet te vergeten; sluit eerst het geheel aan zonder het flesje van de eezibleed te vullen met remolie en koppel de luchtslang (flesje eezibleed) aan een autoband met max 1 bar lucht. Luister en controleer goed of je lucht hoort/ziet ontsnappen! Als alles goed is aangesloten, kun jij aan de slag. Let wel op dat je altijd de luchtslang ontkoppelt alvorens het reservoir of het flesje te openen. Dat wordt vaak vergeten; vooral wanneer men merkt dat het eezibleedflesje bijna leeg is en besluit extra olie erbij te vullen !!!!

Het remoliereservoir bestaat uit 2 delen, 1 voor de remmen en 1 voor de koppeling. Geen ander potje dus :grin: !
Volgorde van bleeden is: rechtsachter, linksachter, rechtsvoor, linksvoor en als laatste doe ik de koppelingscilinder bij de bak.

Klinkt allemaal zo moeilijk, maar na de eerste keer zul je merken dat het niets voorspelt!

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Jeroen » 20 feb 2021, 07:36

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 20 feb 2021, 23:36

De eezibleed doet het heerlijk ! Op een half uurtje perfect kunnen ontluchten. Terwijl ik het vacuüm systeem die ik eerder gebruikte, een uur of vier zonder succes mee bezig was.
Nogmaals super bedankt voor jullie super tips en mooie uitleg. De tip van de emmer met zeepwater kwam onmiddellijk te pas. Bij het op druk brengen van het olie potje was het rubberen dopje niet blij (zie foto). Olie spoot plots beetje overal :grin: Ik heb deze afgedicht zodanig ik welk kon op druk brengen. Maar zijn deze bij de dealer apart te koop? Of ga ik ergens op de sloop eentje moeten scoren.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 21 feb 2021, 00:57

Die rubber dopjes zijn los te koop bij de dealer.
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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 21 feb 2021, 09:29

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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor afrite_a4 » 21 feb 2021, 20:38

Fijn dat het gelukt is :handgestures-thumbup:
Voor die dopjes; Mercedes dealer of check onderstaande link van Steronderdelen:


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Re: Remmen ontluchten

Berichtdoor Beast » 21 feb 2021, 21:08

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