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W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 12 jan 2021, 21:00

De werkbank is eindelijk op zijn plek met een kast ernaast voor het elektrische gereedschap en spullenboel. De eerste vervanging wordt de ster, de originele is helemaal verweerd en wordt uiteraard ook vervangen door een originele.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 11 feb 2021, 15:45

Momenteel heeft mijn W123 een rechter buitenspiegel welke er niet origineel op hoort.
Graag wil ik dit terugbrengen naar origineel, de plaat heb ik inmiddels het type nummer gevonden MB 123 725 02 11.
Wat heb ik nog meer nodig, ik vermoed nog een buitenrubber en binnenplaat. Heeft iemand dit compleet liggen en er af moet?
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor MBreed » 11 feb 2021, 16:09

Je bedoelt een blinde plaat aan de buitenzijde? Die heb ik nog wel nieuw liggen denk ik. Mag je voor 25€ hebben. Aan de binnenzijde hoort inderdaad ook een blinde plaat en nog een rubber onder de buitenste plaat. Blinde plaat binnenzijde heb ik ook nieuw en kost 20€, rubbertje voor de buitenplaat helaas niet.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 11 feb 2021, 21:14

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor MBreed » 12 feb 2021, 12:16

Het is inderdaad een boekhouderswagen.

Optielijst blijft beperkt tot de standaard door verkopers geadviseerde centrale vergrendeling en stuurbekrachtiging.

Hij is afgeleverd bij de Mercedes-Benz dealer in Aken voor een nieuwprijs van 25.826,15 DM incl. Mwst.

Nederlandse prijs zou conform dezelfde prijslijst op het volgende neerkomen:

200 benzine 4-deurs sedan basisprijs f 42.480,--

422 stuurbekrachtiging f 1.414,82
466 centrale vergrendeling f 659,62
533 ontstoring wagen en motor zonder radioinbouw af fabriek f 182,90
534 mechanische antenne zonder radioinbouw f 151,04

Totaal incl. BTW f 44.888,38

Heftig prijsverschil, zeker om te bedenken dat de DM en Gulden in die tijd praktisch dezelfde waarde hadden.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 12 feb 2021, 12:46

Dank voor de uitdraai! @MBreed :)
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Beast » 12 feb 2021, 21:29

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 21 feb 2021, 17:33

Vandaag is een stukje rijden niets geworden ivm haarscheur in brandstof leiding waardoor deze ging lekken. Aankomende week een paar meter nieuwe leidingen halen en alles even nalopen.

Dus de oude verweerde ster vervangen door een nieuwe originele, staat toch weer even wat netter. :)

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 02 mei 2021, 14:36

Met Koningsdag afgelopen week was het heerlijk weer, dus tijd om een rondje te touren. Helaas liep tijdens de rit de moter temperatuur naar 100+ graden. Dus auto aan de kant en toen zag ik dat de koelventilator afgebroken was. Vandaag heb ik de kunstof behuizing verwijderd, deze was ook beschadigd door de koelventilator onderdeel 1235052055.

Het is nu alleen de vraag hoe kan ik deze repareren. Is de as gemakkelijk te vervangen? Of moet het complete onderdeel vervangen worden. Ik heb deze nog niet gedemonteerd omdat (vermoed ik) het koelwater er eerst uit moet, dat is wel jammer deze heb ik vorige maand ververst.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 02 mei 2021, 18:58

Als je de afgebroken bout uit de as van de waterpomp kunt halen, heb je alleen een nieuwe bout nodig.
Mogelijk moet je daarvoor de radiator weghalen om werkruimte te verschaffen, dan kun je een gaatje boren en met een linkse tap de afgebroken bout verwijderen, als het met een tangetje of beiteltje niet lukt.

Komt de bout er niet uit zonder de as of het schroefdraad te beschadigen, ben je toe aan een nieuwe waterpomp.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Edwin1966 » 03 mei 2021, 11:04

Mooie auto!!. Ik heb ook een 200 uit 83 maar met een andere carburateur. Op die van met zit een stromberg met een gele dop. De catburateur die ik op de foto zie ken ik van de W201 en W124. Ik ben benieuwd hoe dat zit. Zijn die wagens met verschillende carburateurs geleverd? Weet iemand dat?

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 03 mei 2021, 12:12

Zou er zo veel mogelijk kruip-olie op spuiten, regelmatig even er op sproeien voordat je er aan begint. Kijk uit met linkse tappen, die willen gauw breken.
Ik zou proberen om hem met een centerponsje linksom te tikken. As blokkeren met een griptang of zo. Eventueel met een klein scherp vlammetje heel even de bout heet maken, dan komt de oxidatie in de schroefdraad vaak los.
Durf je het aan om er een moer op te lassen? Precies in de moer en op de kop van het draadeindje? Door die hitte komt hij ook vaak wel los. Linkse tappen ben ik geen fan van. Ik geloof dat dat m10 fijn is, m10x1 of zo.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 16 mei 2021, 21:01

De nieuwe waterpomp duurde even qua leveren, maar hij zit er inmiddels op. Komende week dynamo, koelventilator en radiator terugplaatsen.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 30 jun 2021, 15:34

Alles zit weer in elkaar en afgelopen zondag even 50km gereden. Temperatuur blijft stabiel en geen lekkage of ander gedoe. :mrgreen:

Binnenkort de verlichting van het dashboard aanpakken en vervangen door LED. Twee voordelen; betere verlichting en geen hitte ontwikkeling meer waardoor plastic componenten beschadigen een bekend euvel.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor groove_champion » 30 jun 2021, 21:26

Mooi dat alles weer helemaal dicht zit! :handgestures-thumbup:

De dashboardverlichting vervangen door led kan ik zeker aanraden. Er komt veel beter licht uit!

Ik heb amber kleurige leds geplaatst om dichter bij het origineel te blijven.
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Heb deze led ook in het wit gekocht, maar de amber kleur past beter bij de auto heb ik het idee. In ieder geval is de lichtopbrengst veeeeel beter dan het origineel
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Edwin1966 » 01 jul 2021, 09:01

Interessant waar heb je die leds gekocht? Moet ik nog ergens op letten? Bepaalde aansluiting (mar) of zo iets. Ben een leek op dat gebied.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 01 jul 2021, 13:50

Hoi Michael,

mooi!!
Toevallig ben ik er ook mee bezig op mn W126. Eigenlijk was ik een radio aan het inbouwen maar ja, dan kom je ook weer bij kapotte lampjes etc etc.
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Ik had nog wat losse lampjes maar alle zwakke lampjes (geen helder/matglas) waren kapot. Ik had nog 1 fel wit LED lampje liggen van een eerder experiment bij mijn 450SE destijds. Deze toch maar gemonteerd in de verlichting van het paneel rondom de verwarming. Ik zat toevallig ook te denken om amber LED-jes te gaan kopen :)

Graag dus meer info over waar en welke lampjes precies :grin:

Vooral de lage warmte van de LED geeft voor mij de doorslag (verbrossend plastic...) We gaan de Wagens verbeteren!
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor groove_champion » 01 jul 2021, 15:45

Hi Math en Edwin,

Leds zijn inderdaad een beter alternatief, Qua hitte scheelt het ook enorm. Ik had bij mijn W123 last van gesmolten plastic, omdat het lampje ooit zo heet is geworden. Ik heb de volgende types les gebruikt voor de conversie.


Knoppen en schakelaars:
de T5 Led leent zich uitstekend voor de lampjes van de knopjes in het dashboard en ook voor de trekschakelaar van de mislamp

Deze heb ik besteld:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32862869 ... 4c4dTaVT8w

De W126 en W123 hebben voor de bovenste knoppen in het dashboard een centraal verdeelpunt waaruit glasvezeldraadjes komen en naar de knopjes gaan. Daar past ook prima een T5 led in, echter zul je zien dat deze led dan iets te lang is. Wat je moet doen is de pootjes even ombuigen en het ledje uit de houder trekken. Met een schaar kun je het plastic hulsje iets korter maken (vanaf de kant waar je het ledje uit het hulsje hebt getrokken) en vervolgens weer de pootjes en het lampje in het huisje stoppen. het is een paar keer proberen voordat je de juiste lengte hebt, maar het is prima te doen.
Ik zal even een foto zoeken van het centrale verdeelpunt.
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Dit is een lastige aangezien je een led moet hebben met een T10 aansluiting. Vele van deze leds schijnen rondom. In de Mercedessen moet je een led hebben die rechtuit schijnt, zodat hij goed tegen de diffuser aan schijnt en het beeld mooi verdeelt over de instrumenten.
Hiervoor leent de T10 met 8smds zich het best.

Deze zijn hier te bestellen
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/40005445 ... 4c4dn0jmrf

Let op! Deze leds hebben een kleine makkelijke aanpassing nodig voordat het werkt in de Mercedes!! De + en de - lopen via de onderkant van het plastic naar de andere kant. Steek je ze zo in de behuizing, dan krijg je kortsluiting. Je moet dus zorgen dat jet het metalen stripjes aan beide kanten in een U vorm ombuigen, zodat de + aan de ene kant blijft en de - aan de andere kant blijft.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 01 jul 2021, 16:25

Hoi Michael, top!

Ik heb zojuist een zooi lampjes besteld bij verschillende leveranciers. T5 en T10 in geel/amber.
Voor de verlichting van de middenconsole moet de LED volgens mij juist rondom/naar de zijkant schijnen. Voor de dashboardverlichting dan weer juist vooral naar voren...
De cehntrale Lamp waar de glasvezelkabels heenlopen had ik ook al zien zitten op de W126. Bedankt voor de tips met het inkorten van de T5 LED.

Ik heb er vroeger ook al veel mee zitten prutsen voor mijn Heckflosse. Het probleem toen was dat de BA9s LED lampjes te dik waren om door het gaatje te passen. Toen heb ik ze rondom afgeslepen. daarna bleek dat de + en =- andersom zaten op de heckflosse-Tacho. toen heb ik het opgegeven destijds.

Ik heb nu ook BA15s in rood en in warm wit besteld. Ik ga proberen de achterlichten op de W115 in LED te doen. Ik ben benieuwd of rood of wit licht een beter resultaat geeft in het achterlicht met rode lens/glas.

Dan het belangrijkste, ik wilde een 3e remlicht op de W115. Er zit al een mooie Hella Mistlamp op met een 35W BA20s lamp erin. Ik heb nu een LED BA20s gevonden met fel wit licht, 500 lumen. Ik wil deze in de mistlamp zetten en deze bij het remlicht schakelen. Omdat de LED maar 2W is moet dat wel lukken (met de 35W lamp durfde ik dat niet aan...)

Ik ben benieuwd!

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 02 jul 2021, 08:15

Dank voor de tips! Ik ga eerst enkel de console voorzien van LEDs wel wit zoals onderstaand;

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De rest zal ik vervangen met de gele variant, deze zojuist besteld weer een mooi project voor in de wintermaanden.
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