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W123 200 1983 van BosBenz : Logboek / Showroom - 3

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W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor groove_champion » 02 jul 2021, 22:37

Hi Harry,

Ben benieuwd naar je ervaringen met dit type led. Volgens mij moet daar ook aardig wat uit komen :handgestures-thumbup:

Op dit filmpje van Mercedessource worden meerdere types led getest. Hier legt hij uit dat het type led dat ik had gepost met 8smd's goed in dit type instrumentencluster past, vanwege de goede verdeling van het licht.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KptFxQet0f0 (bij 4 minuut 56)

Inmiddels hebben ze een ander type lampje gevonden die misschien nog wel beter is. Deze heb ik nog niet op Aliexpress gevonden :lol: Deze hoeven niet aangepast te worden zoals het type met 8 smd's
https://mercedessource.com/store/5th-ge ... -new-22021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjK_1TQXjpE&t=18s

@Math,

Klinkt goed! Ik ben erg benieuwd naar je ervaringen met die leds in de lichtunits! Ik heb ook eens zitten denken om de p21w en r10w lampen te vervangen door led in kleur.

Die BA9s was inderdaad ook even een puzzeltje. Heb het idee dat er nu steeds meer nieuwe vormen bij komen die goed in de Mercedessen zouden kunnen passen :handgestures-thumbup: Bij mij zat er een BA7s onder de asbak. Ik vond het erg lastig om hier een geschikte led van te vinden want hij moest eigenlijk alle kanten op schijnen.

Op Aliexpress vond ik dit type (met veel moeite in de kleur amber)
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Met als resultaat
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Om terug te te komen op de T10 met 8smds. Ik had toevallig nog een foto met het verschil tussen hoe hij uit de fabriek komt vs hoe je hem moet aanpassen om het werkend te maken in de Mercedes.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 04 jul 2021, 18:53

Hoi Michael, Harry,

Misschien moeten we een apart LED topic aanmaken (ik hoor al, wat led je :grin: )

Ik heb alle LEDs binnen en ik heb de rode en warm witte al getest in de 500SE. De LEDś zijn alle feller dan de gloeilampjes (5 W denk ik, ik kon het niet meer lezen... :geek: )

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De rode zijn duidelijk het felst. De Warm witte ook wel feller dan de gloeilamp, ook minder rood in de unit.

De Kleine LEd lampjes in de middenconsole moet ik nog inbouwen. De T5 Lampjes die ik heb schijnen recht naar voren en weinig naar de zijkanten. Misschien kan ik hier iets aanpassen door een konus te boren in het lensje. Met name voor de verlicting van de verwarmingsconsole. Hier moet het licht denk ik vooral naar de zijkanten schijnen. Dit moet ik nog gaan proberen.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor groove_champion » 04 jul 2021, 20:14

Hoi Math,

Dat lijkt me inderdaad een goed idee om misschien een los topic hiervan te maken.

De lichtopbrengst van de rode led ziet er echt goed uit ten opzichte van de gloeilamp! Denk dat dit een mooie verbetering is :grin: !

(ik heb overigens de 5e genratie led met 18 smd's van Mercedessource gevonden https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32821934237.html)
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 05 jul 2021, 16:18

Dit weekend de W123 ook voorzien van een GPS tracker, deze wordt ingeschakeld zodra de ACC stand ingeschakeld wordt en kan na uitschakelen auto nog 4 uur op een accu de locatie doorgeven. Deze kan ik met een app volgen op mijn telefoon, er is geen abonnement benodigd. En je kan de locatie direct opvragen met een SMS en dan krijg je meteen een Google Maps link opgestuurd.

Dit alles voor slects 12 euro en nog een prepaid simkaart. Belangrijk is wel om na te gaan of je provider 2G ondersteund.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 28 nov 2021, 12:03

Omdat we de komende maanden niet op de weg mogen door de overgangsregeling weer eens tijd om wat punten op te pakken. Als eerste de kachel ventilatiemotor, de lagers zijn compleet versleten. De unit eruit halen is niet al teveel werk. Alleen waar kan ik een gereviseerde/nieuwe bestellen? Ik wil niet voor een gebruikte variant gaan met de kans dat deze na een paar maanden dezelfde kuren heeft door de leeftijd van de lagers. Onder het mom van doe het goed, of doe het niet.

Het product nummer is ax02 577692m

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Jeroen » 30 nov 2021, 05:46

Kan je niet gewoon een nieuw lager bestellen?
Meestal staat er wel een code op een lager. Zoniet een kwestie van even opmeten.
Ben je voor een paar euro klaar.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 01 dec 2021, 19:12

Ik zie dat je een Franse kachelmotor hebt, dat zal niet degene zijn die Mercedes er in 1983 in heeft geschroefd.
Wat Jeroen aangeeft valt te proberen, al moet ik zeggen dat de ventilatie motoren niet echt service vriendelijk zijn.

Mijn reserve Siemens heb ik wel open gehad, schoon gemaakt en de lagers gesmeerd.
Vervangen van lagers was daar niet nodig en ook nog wel een uitdaging als ik even in het geheugen graaf.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 01 dec 2021, 22:42

Ik heb nu een vervangende bij Max opgehaald, deze vanavond even goed gereinigd en komend weekend monteren.

Het oude model bewaar ik mocht over x jaar hetzelfde probleem onstaan dan kan ik alsnog een poging wagen om deze te laten revisren. En er komt nog een werkende variant voor een klein bedrag uit Litouwen vandaag welke ook op de voorraad plank gaat. Toch wel handig een garage. :grin:
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 24 dec 2021, 10:06

Het houtwerk werd ook al minder, vooral het dashboard kastje. Momenteel alle houten panelen gedemonteerd. Vooral het dashboardkastje is een crime om los te halen, uiteindelijk een goedkope schroevendraaier bewerkt met een dremel om het passend te maken.

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De nieuwe set besteld, ik twijfelde over tweehands maar nu is alles nieuw en de kleuring hetzelfde.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 24 dec 2021, 12:14

Hoi Harry,

Mooi dat zebranohout!
Ik heb altijd zitten denken om een nieuwe complete zebranoset te bestellen op internet (voor de 240D of later voor de 200T). Ik denk dat ik 15 jaar geleden al sets op ebay zag staan. Er stonden alleen altijd kleine fotos bij en weinig informatie. Ook lukte het niet echt om ervaringen te horen van mensen die een set gekocht hadden.

Uiteindelijk heb ik nooit een nieuwe set besteld en ik heb nu ook geen W123 meer.

Waar heb jij de set gekocht? Zaten de bevestigingsstrips ook op de achterkant? Op jouw foto zit er in de middenstrip geen sleuf met aluminiumstripje voor de luchtschuif (USA versie met Klimatronik?)
Ik ben wel benieuwd.

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 24 dec 2021, 12:33

Laatst bijgewerkt door BosBenz op 24 dec 2021, 14:17, in totaal 1 keer bewerkt.
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 24 dec 2021, 13:26

Harry,

Ik ben toch bang dat Math gelijk heeft en deze set niet past in je auto.
De set is zonder de opening voor de schuifregelaar om de middenroosters te openen.
Een schuifregelaar die jij wel hebt in de auto :(
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 24 dec 2021, 20:54

Een dremel vraagt een vaste hand en veel geduld.
Ik denk dat ik de bovenfrees onder de freestafel zou spannen en daarmee de sleuf in het hout zou maken.
Voordeel is, dat je al een voorbeeld hebt :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 25 dec 2021, 13:49

Ik zou het ook voor je kunnen doen, Harry.
Dan hoef je het oude hout niet op te offeren, en kun je er wellicht nog iemand blij mee maken?
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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 29 dec 2021, 15:30

Nieuwe panelen zijn binnen. :woohoo:

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 29 dec 2021, 17:56

Dat ziet er mooi uit Harry!

Boden ze eventueel ook de rest aan, zeg de Schalterleiste en Heizungs-paneel en asbak/middenconsole?

Ik ben gek op dat zebranohout :-)

Misschien ooit voor de W126.... (hoewel dat nog best netjes is..)

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Re: W123 200 1983 van BosBenz

Berichtdoor BosBenz » 30 dec 2021, 18:18

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