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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor MB280E » 27 apr 2022, 18:33

Multimeter is intern bijveiligd met een zekering bij stroommetingen. Deze zekering zal wel stuk zijn.
(Heb er in mijn jonge jaren genoeg zekeringen opgeblazen) :oops:
Ik denk dat u te maken zal hebben met een defecte alternator.
Op voorwaarde dat uw batterij nog ok is.
Beide kunnen ook stuks zijn.
Probeer eerst uit sluiten of er effectief stroom verbruikt wordt bij stilstand.
Koppel batterij eens los en na 2 dagen terug aan.
Meet eens de weerstand tussen motor en carrosserie.
Moet een zeer lage weerstand zijn.
13,3 laadspanning vindt ik laag. Is normaal 13,8V.
Is de stekker op de alternator niet corrodeert?
Wat is uw spanning van volle batterij aangekoppeld en niet aangekoppeld bij contact uit?
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 27 apr 2022, 22:22

Vanmiddag zat er 0,0 stroom in. Kon hem niet opladen met de druppellader. Moest de wagen eerst starten met startkabels, een rondje rijden en daarna kon ik de accu wel laden met de druppellader.

Ik denk dat dit mijn pet te boven gaat. Volgende week eens kijken of ik hem bij een garage kan neerzetten.

Zijn er toevallig forum leden die er naar willen kijken? (Tegen vergoeding uiteraard)
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Benzhans2 » 28 apr 2022, 15:34

Je mag best ff langskomen in Albergen.
Gaat niet om vergoeding of ed, hoor.

Je kunt nog ff relais achterruitverwarming eruit trekken.
Das een grote stroomvreter en zal niet de eerste x zijn dat deze ellende veroorzaakt
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 29 apr 2022, 09:15

Het knopje van de achterruitverwarming brand als ik het knopje indruk, maar zodra ik die los laat brandt die niet meer.

Albergen is 1,5 uur rijden. Is er ook iemand uit de buurt van Utrecht of Amsterdam?
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 29 apr 2022, 14:13

Mij kun je vinden in Schagen, ca 1 uur rijden boven Amsterdam.
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 29 apr 2022, 17:05

:grin: Ik heb je een PB gestuurd
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 30 apr 2022, 19:56

@Richard. Ik heb je PB’s gestuurd, maar het lijkt erop alsof ze niet aankomen. De berichten blijven in mijn Postvak UIT hangen.


Updates!

Vandaag naar de garage geweest. De monteur had niet veel tijd voor me, maar heeft alsnog nuttige info naar boven gebracht.


De elektrische ramen krijgen continue stroom binnen. Relais waren ook warm. Ik kan mijn elek ramen bedienen ondanks dat het contact uit is.

Advies is om 2 nieuwe relais aan te schaffen. Hij betwijfeld alleen wel of het echt daaraan ligt, omdat het heel toevallig zou zijn dat ze beide kapot zijn. Hij verwacht dat er ergens naar de raammotor een continue stroom is aangelegd. Mocht dit niet werken, dan kan ik de auto laten staan voor verder onderzoek.

Ik zoek nu 2 raam relais zoals afgebeeld. Zijn deze nog ergens te verkrijgen?
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 30 apr 2022, 20:22

Bij elektrische ramen zit er bij de bestuurders portier een tweede schakelaar die er voor zorgt dat als de deur open staat de ramen bedient kunnen worden zonder dat de auto op contact staat. Wellicht maakt deze schakelaar sluiting. Of is stuk dus.
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 30 apr 2022, 21:44

Oh dat is interessant. Het ligt dus niet aan de relais denk jij?
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 30 apr 2022, 22:12

Het zou wel erg toevallig zijn als er twee tegelijk stuk gaan. Ik zou het schakelaartje er eens uit trekken en de stekker er afhalen en kijken of de ramen dan nog zonder contact open en dicht gaan, dan weet je het meteen.
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 01 mei 2022, 01:27

Heb je misschien een foto van de locatie waar die zit? Of zijn er video’s op het internet?
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 01 mei 2022, 10:41

Als je de deur open doet zitten er aan de scharnierkant in de spijl twee schakelaars, een voor de binnenverlichting en een voor de ramen. De onderste is voor de ramen, tenminste bij mijn 190, ik weet niet of het bij de 123 ook de onderste is. Misschien zitten ze wel naast elkaar, maar als je een knopje indrukt en de binnenverlichting gaat uit dan is het de andere.
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 01 mei 2022, 20:04

Nou heren, scherpe opmerking van Willem. Heb wat zitten zoeken en neuzen en het is inderdaad het knopje in de deur. Op het moment dat ik deze knop lichtjes indrukte ging de binnenverlichting uit, maar toen ik de knop iets verder indrukte hoorde ik dezelfde relais van gisteren tikken. Oftewel stroom op en stroom af. Na wat verder onderzoek bleek dus dat met de deur dicht de knop niet volledig ingedrukt wordt. En dat.. had te maken met het feit dat de knop blijkbaar (achteraf logisch) is afgebroken en dus korter is. Hierdoor kon die met de deur dicht dus niet tot het einde ingedrukt worden.

Komende week even kijken of ik bij de sloperij zo’n knopje kan vinden.

Hoop dat dit het probleem is, maar ik ben er nu bijna zeker van.

Bedankt allemaal voor de hulp!
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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 01 mei 2022, 21:38

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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor MBBelgium » 05 mei 2022, 09:52

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Re: Accu laadt niet (genoeg) op of trekt leeg

Berichtdoor Merrie94 » 09 okt 2022, 08:49

Gisteren weer even tijd gehad om wat te gaan klussen aan de oldtimer en wilde ik oa de deurschakelaar vervangen. Ik heb hierin helaas de verkeerde schakelaar gekocht en zou dit dus op een later moment moeten oplossen. Mijn vraag voor nu is hoe ik de schakelaar los krijg? Er zit een praktische doorgang naar de schakelaar in de zijkant van het paneel. Echter lijkt het alsof de schakelaar muurvast zit (ik denk ook doordat er aan de buitenkant overheen is gespoten).

Wat is de juiste manier om zo’n schakelaar los te krijgen?
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