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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 13 feb 2013, 10:01

Hoi, ik moet even kijken of ik bij de automaat specialist terecht kan want ik moet de automaat nog steeds laten na servicesen.

Ik laat het je even weten of ik daar terecht kan zo niet dan kunnen we zaterdag wat afspreken.

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 13 feb 2013, 10:10

Coolio je hebt pb.

Tevens wat foto's van gister:
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Hier zie je goed het verschil in hoogte. De different ligt nu zeker wel een cm hoger en ik hoopte dat hierdoor het gebonk minder zou worden maar helaas.
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Gelijk nog even diff olie eruit gehaald en doorgespoeld. Was gitzwart. Verse erin BP 80w90 als goed is.

Uiteindelijk is het gebonk er dus nog steeds. Maar het resoneert niet meer zoveel door heel het chassis heen als voorheen dus we zijn een stap dichterbij :)
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 13 feb 2013, 10:17

MAAR!!!

Ik dacht dat ik klaar was en ging op zoek naar mijn geratel en toen kwam ik dit tegen...

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Als je goed kijkt zie je een mm spleet tussen diff en balk zitten... In het bout gat kon ik van onder zien dat de bout er maar half in zat... ze hebben em. Er scheef in gedraaid want heel t draad is naar de #%$£> klote
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Andere zeide lag ook los! Kreeg ie niet goed in beweging helaas (moet uitlaat en kabel demonteren volgende x) de andere kreeg ik er wel uit maar draad op de bout dus niet goed en wij hadden hier ook niet. Volgens mij is het 1.25 draad op m12.

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Berichtdoor Maikel » 13 feb 2013, 12:16

zie ik dat goed ? heb je ook ruimte tussen je steekas en diff aan linker zijde ? :sick:

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Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 13 feb 2013, 13:07

Wat bedoel je precies? Welke speling? De steekassen horen toch heen en weer te kunnen ??
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Berichtdoor Maikel » 13 feb 2013, 14:20

ja maar dat zwartachtige bolle stuk hoor niet in je diff heen en weer te kunnen
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Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 13 feb 2013, 14:56

Oke zal er nog eens naar kijken. Als er speling op zit moet er nieuwe steekassen op??
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Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 13 feb 2013, 16:08

Als de steekas in en uit het differentieel kan bewegen dan zit er een verkeerde vulring tussen. Deze ring zit om de steekas, maar hoort bij het differentieel. Als je de as vervangt moet de oude vulring overgezet worden. Vulringen zijn te koop met een dikteverschil oplopend met 0,1 mm. Het komt nogal precies. Er mag geen voelbare speling op de as zitten. En dit zou best de trilling kunnen veroorzaken.
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Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 13 feb 2013, 16:17

De as kan ik aan beide kanten heen en weer bewegen ja, horizontaal dus bedoel ik hè zal thuis een illustratie maken

http://www.mercedesforum.nl/forum/viewt ... 46&t=21730

Dit heb ik dus ook kan de as echt cm of 2 schuiven in en uit de diff... Ooit mss ringetje vergeten dus?!!
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Berichtdoor Maikel » 13 feb 2013, 16:29

oops, dat verklaart ook het gebonk wat jij hebt.
Je moet ook nog even checken of het uiteinde vd steekas (aan de wielkant) in en uit de wielkant kan.
De steekas zit vast met schroef met busje erom. Als busje te lang is kan je hem niet vast trekken.
Of in ergste geval is de steekas niet binnenin het diff vastgezet met een borgklemmetje.
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Ik heb laatst de achterwielen eraf gehaald (vervanging parkeer rem schoentjes) en meen mij te herinneren dat die moeren er wel aan de wielkanten opzaten. Maar zal a.s. dinsdag weer eens inspecteren. Ik gok dat het borg ringetje gewoon OF vergeten is OF kapot is gegaan (de olie was zo zwart in de diff, dat die volgens mij echt al heeeel lang niet gedaan is!). Maar goed. Dinsdag dus fotos/ videos!

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Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 13 feb 2013, 23:06

Ik denk ook dat je eerst dat diff moet vast zetten voor je met de cardan as aan de gang gaat.

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Berichtdoor JoanLuijkx » 13 feb 2013, 23:51

Hoi Mark,

Ik heb het gebonk ook een keer gehad op de Autobahn. Bij mij kwam het duidelijk van links dus ik verdacht de linker aandrijfas die het ook inderdaad bleek te zijn. Komt het gebonk van een bepaalde kant of uit het midden? Als het dus van links of rechts komt toch even de aandrijfassen checken.

Bij mij was het zo dat er speling zat tussen de buitenste koppeling (28b op het plaatje) en de wielflens. De as kun je tussen de koppelingen wel heen en weer schuiven, dat is normaal.

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Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 15 feb 2013, 08:57

Dus wat ik kon (as beet en heen en weer bewegen) dat hoort??? Nou ben ik in de war namelijk... :/

Het "huis" waarin die as zit, die aan de diff zit, die hoort geen speling te hebben, correct?

De as zelf, tussen dat "huis" en de schijf, hoort wel een cm of 2 heen en weer te kunnen, correct?
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Berichtdoor JoanLuijkx » 15 feb 2013, 18:22

De as moet een cm of twee heen en weer kunnen schuiven omdat er anders bij het in- en uitveren van de auto spanning op het middenstuk, koppelingen enz. komt te staan.
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Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 15 feb 2013, 23:44

Ik blijft een raar probleem vinden.

Waarom precies bij 70 km/u daarboven neemt het het af tot met 100 hou je in de verte een gehum over.

Dacht nog even onbalans motor maar met hogere toeren ook gerommel met 70.

Wat wel op valt is dat als je veel power geeft het erger is dan dat je voorzichtig over de 70 heen kruipt.

Het gerommeld komt ergens achter vandaan, de steekassen zijn er onderuit geweest voor nieuwe hoezen.
En de homekineten zijn in orde er zit geen speling op.

Een achter lager zou je constant moeten horen.

Misschien toch iets uit het differentieel ?
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Berichtdoor Maikel » 15 feb 2013, 23:57

lijkt logisch, bij meer gas veel krachten op het diff waardoor hij meer gehum gaat geven.
Jij bent toch aan het geld uitgeven, waarom koop je niet een goed gebruikt diff bij Jans, kost rond €70,- dan kan je het proberen?
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