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W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek : Logboek / Showroom

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Het is nu 29 maart 2024, 00:38

W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Post hier alle updates van je auto, van bougie (of gloeier) wissel tot aan een project.
Project afgerond, zet dan een link in je logboek!
Gewoon showen mag ook natuurlijk.

W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 15 mei 2018, 19:39

Beste forumgenoten,

Ik kan vanaf nu wel zeggen dat het opknappen/restauratie van de 200D is voltooid. Al enige weken geniet ik van het rijden, maar natuurlijk zullen er puntjes blijven opduiken. Het lijkt me daarom leuk om een logboek bij te houden en deze los te koppelen van mijn eerdere topic (Opknappen van W123 200D English Rot).

De eerste 1000 km na 20 jaar stilstand en het opknap proces zitten er inmiddels op, en tot nu toe gaat alles goed. De boel blijft netjes op niveau, en het verbruik schommelt tussen de 1 op 12.5 en 1 op 13.5. Afgelopen weekend wat langere ritten gemaakt naar de Duitse Eifel en hierbij nog wat mooie foto's geschoten.

De raad en daad van dit forum is tot nu toe steeds waardevol geweest.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 15 mei 2018, 19:42

Dan heb je goed werk geleverd Luke :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor MBreed » 15 mei 2018, 20:23

De mooie kleur valt goed weg in het Duitse landschap! Je gaat er veel plezier van hebben, let maar op :grin:
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Wietse » 16 mei 2018, 08:05

lekker zuinig motorblokje! goed gedaan kerel, geniet ervan.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Maikel » 17 mei 2018, 09:02

Mooie wagen, bijzondere kleur !
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 03 aug 2018, 09:02

Afgelopen week maar eens wat van m'n to-do lijstje opgepakt. Het leek mij een goed idee om nu na 3000 km de olie en het filter te vervangen, aangezien hij zo lang heeft stilgestaan voor de restauratie. Het lijkt me het beste om vanaf nu gewoon het fabrieksinterval van 5000k aan te houden. Ik heb 10W40 olie van valvoline gebruikt. (semi synth)

Daarnaast bezig geweest met het smeren en afstellen van de gas stangen, alles is mooi spelingsvrij nu. Dat rijdt toch wel een stuk lekkerder.

Gisteren is het gelukt om de rubbers van de versnellingsbak hevels te vervangen. Dit was goed te doen, al heb ik wel de hevels van de bak gehaald. Onder de auto gaan hakken en zagen zag ik niet zo zitten. Schakelt nu mooi spelingsvrij. De oude rubbers van 1-2 en 3-4 waren aardig op. Die van de achteruit mankeerde niks aan, maar daar kwam ik pas achter toen de hevel er al af was, dus toch ook maar vervangen. Ik heb inderdaad met een ijzerzaagje de stalen ring doorgezaagd om de oude rubbers te verwijderen.

Iemand nog tips voor nieuwe ruitenwissers? Of is een standaard setje van bosch altijd prima?
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor wimada » 03 aug 2018, 12:53

Goed werk,nu de rembekrachtiger nog een keer opnieuw lakken en is het helemaal klaar !
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor MBreed » 04 aug 2018, 12:43

Ziet er netjes uit :handgestures-thumbup: . Wat betreft de ruitenwissers. Je hebt de Bosch, die je bijvoorbeeld bij de action koopt , en je hebt BOSCH. Je moet de Bosch Twin ruitenwissers hebben, dat zijn de beste voor de W123, want die moderne dingen (Aerotwins) staan voor geen meter.

Deze, en dan uiteraard de juiste lengte.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 05 aug 2018, 12:11

Beste Max,

Bedankt voor je reactie. Daar had ik mijn oog inderdaad ook al op laten vallen. Dan ga ik die eerdaags maar eens bestellen. Die aerotwins vond ik ook wat te hip voor op een W123. :lol:
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 08 aug 2018, 23:10

Qua prijs, ik bekijk het zo, ik doe gewoon goedkope erop, zijn ze versleten, gewoon nieuwe goedkope. Mijn ervaring, goedkope gaan toch minimum een goed jaar mee, tot 2 jaar!

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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 15 aug 2018, 08:19

Van de week even nieuw wiellager vet in de naafkappen gedaan aan de voorkant. Het oude vet zag er nog goed uit, maar toch maar vervangen. Dit stond nog op het lijstje op gedaan te worden. Ook zijn de ruitenwissers binnen en gemonteerd.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Wietse » 17 aug 2018, 07:14

Ja luke, die rembekrachtiger, kan echt niet hoor, hi hi

En die klemmetjes van de schakelstangen, lekker friemelen onder die auto. :lol:
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 12 nov 2018, 15:17

Ook ik had last van een dansende tankmeter vanaf ongeveer 1/3 vol, daarboven werkte hij prima.

Gisteren in alle rust de tankvlotter gedemonteerd (had hem er al eens uitgehad toen ik de tank spoelde vlak na aankoop).

Met dank aan tips op het forum de vlotter uit elkaar gehaald, en er zat inderdaad een hoop troep in. Dat verbaasde mij engiszins omdat met het spoelen van de tank, deze eigenlijk vrij schoon was.

De koperen draad voor het reserve lampje was los gekomen met de jaren, dus deze opnieuw vast gesoldeerd. Ook de geoxideerde contactjes voor het reservelampje opgeschuurd en de boel weer in elkaar. Vlotter weer aangesloten en buiten de tank even getest, en de boel lijkt goed te werken. Hopelijk blijft hij dit nu ook zo doen:)
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor MBreed » 12 nov 2018, 18:28

Weet je zeker dat het niet de vetspuit uit de kast was?? :lol:
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Pieter1967 » 12 nov 2018, 21:07

Hallo Luke,

Mooi dat je tankmeter het weer doet, dan heb je eer van je werk toch? Ze worden wel erg vies van binnen hé :? :? .

Ik vind het wel vreemd dat je het hebt gered met alleen de "deksel" van de vlotter af te halen. Je kunt namelijk de aluminium buis rechtstandig van het overige deel aftrekken zodat het gehele instrument zichtbaar wordt.

Ik heb recentelijk nog een tweetal vlotters gedemonteerd welke dezelfde klacht hadden. Wat mij, bij beide vlotters, opviel was dat de ijzeren geleidestangetjes van de eigenlijke vlotter behoorlijk verroest waren waardoor de vlotter niet meer goed kon glijden langs de al genoemde stangetjes. Daardoor ontstaat een "onrustige" meter. Ik heb 1 tankvlotter weten te redden door de stangetjes zo goed mogelijk schoon te schuren en vervolgens te polijsten. De andere was niet meer te redden omdat de stangetjes bijna door geroest waren. Voor deze meter ben ik op zoek naar andere stangetjes welke ik dan ga monteren. Mijn plan is om roestvaststalen stangetjes te gebruiken dan ben ik meteen van het roesten af.

Wanneer je probleem weer (nog) optreedt dan adviseer ik je deze manier ook te proberen. Gezien de geschiedenis van je wagen verwacht ik toch verroeste stangetjes.


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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 13 nov 2018, 10:11

Beste pieter,

Bedankt voor je uitgebreide reactie. Ik heb hem wel helemaal uit elkaar gehaald, alleen ben toen vergeten foto's te maken. ;)

Meteen de aluminium buis schoongemaakt door er een poetslap doorheen te halen en erg veel rem reiniger gebruikt om de vlotter en de reservetank contacten schoon te maken.

Ik snap precies wat je bedoelt, bij mij was het glij stangetje nog in goede staat, hem hem met een fijne doek nog even extra op gepoetst.

Het zou mooi zijn als het je lukt om de glijstang te kunnen vervangen, dat lijkt mij geen eenvoudig klusje.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 09 mei 2019, 08:43

De keerringen van m'n differentieel beginnen nu helaas toch te lekken, ondanks dat ze het eerste jaar wel dicht bleven. Ach na 42 jaar..

Ik nu nu onderdelen gaan bestellen, en kwam keerringen van ELRING tegen. Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee? Omdat ik een vroege W123 zou ik de kleinere moeten hebben (65 45mm). Het zijn de keerringen naar de aandrijfassen. Ik vervang ook meteen de steun aan het diff deksel.

Tevens dacht ik dat het verstandig zou zijn om de aandrijfashoezen preventief te vervangen omdat dit waarschijnlijk nog de eerste zijn die er nu opzitten. Dit blijkt voor deze autos niet echt een makkelijk klusje, maar het lijkt me wat veel werk om de as te splitsen aangezien ze niet lek zijn. Heeft iemand ervaring met een ashoezenspreider? Tegenwoordig zijn er pneumatische?

Tevens twijfel ik om meteen de hardyschijven mee te nemen. Deze zijn ook nog de eerste, maar niet kapot, alleen wat hard van uitdroging.

Wellicht hebben jullie goede adviezen.

Alvast bedankt!
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 09 mei 2019, 17:53

hoi,

ik zou die keringen bij de dealer bestellen op je chassis nummer.

heb je toevallig geen interesse in twee nieuwe assen, weet niet of ze voor een 200D het zelfde zijn als een 300D turbodiesel
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor MBreed » 09 mei 2019, 21:08

Elring is goede kwaliteit. Meyle monteren we hier niet als eerste, liever een Lemförder of origineel. Optimal is ook nog een goede keuze. Een relatief nieuw merk dat gedeeltelijk ook aan MB levert. Het zou kunnen dat Meyle de enige is die je nog kan krijgen. In dat geval is het een goede optie.

Als de hoezen nog heel zijn. Afblijven. Heeft geen zin om dat preventief te gaan vervangen. Hetzelfde geldt voor de cardanas. Als je geen rare trillingen of vibraties hebt en alles is nog heel, ook vooral afblijven. Uiteraard dan wel in de gaten houden.

Als je wilt kan ik wel even wat checken voor je op chassisnummer.
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Re: W123 200D 1977 Engels Rood Logboek

Berichtdoor Luke » 09 mei 2019, 22:35

Max en John,

Bedankt voor het advies, precies het gevoel wat ik reeds had, alles zit er nog netjes en strak onder wat betreft cardan as, ook de hoezen zijn nog heel. Goed om te horen dat Meyle wel O.K. is, dit was inderdaad de enige die ik zo kon vinden voor de steun.

Ik heb het OEM nummer voor de keringen uit EPC gehaald en na googlen bleek dit te stroken met een vroege W123 die een kleinere buiten diameter zou hebben.

Het vervangen van de steekassen lijkt me niet nodig, gezien de relatief lage KM stand en ik er verder geen klachten over heb. Oven een kleine 2 weken ga ik de klus proberen te doen, omdat ik dan een brug tot m'n beschikking heb.

Nog adviezen welke vloeibare pakking het best gebruikt kan worden voor het diff deksel?

Iemand ervaring of de schokbrekers inderdaad los moeten, soms lees ik van wel, maar in de Haynes wordt dit niet omschreven..

Wederom bedankt.
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