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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 16 feb 2013, 15:20

Mark heb jij jou as laten balanceren nog?
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 16 feb 2013, 20:11

Ja vorig jaar voor de vakantie bij Terberg in IJsselstein.

Ik heb nu de hardy schijven vervangen, cardanas lager met rubber, en cardan laten balanceren.
En de steun van de automaat.
Alleen dus nog niet de achterste ophang steun achter het diff. Die ziet er nog goed uit maar misschien preventief ook maar vervangen.

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 17 feb 2013, 17:40

Oké. En dat hielp niet?

Mijn diff jankt ook een beetje nadat ik er nieuwe olie in gedaan heb rond de 50-60 en zoals Mark zegt rond de 70 begint het gebonk en getril als je plankt. Rustig rijden en het is niet zo merkbaar.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 25 feb 2013, 16:54

De auto staat nu bij H & S transmissies, ze hebben de auto op de brug laten lopen.
Automaat, aandrijving super stabiel.
Alleen begint het differentieel met 70 en al eerder herrie te maken zonder belasting.

Waarschijnlijk pion as lager, verklaard ook waarom ik daarboven een gehum over hou.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Diospuszta » 26 feb 2013, 19:44

Hoi Mark,

En wat wil je dan doen met het dif? Reviseren of kijken voor een ander maar dan van een oude S300 tdt?

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 26 feb 2013, 20:13

Op het andere topic hebben we al een discussie om te zien of het loont om 2.88 uit de US te halen.
Govert had ook nog een idee om spullen over te zetten of nieuw te kopen. Het nieuw kopen loopt een beetje in de papieren.

Ik krijg nog een opgave wat het kost om het huidige 3.07 diff. te repareren.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 25 maart 2013, 17:15

De auto is voorzien van een ander 3.07 differentieel, er zijn er middels 3 de revue gepasseerd. Maar ze hebben allemaal de nodige km achter de kiezen en een revisie loopt in de papieren.

We hebben er nu één die goed is.
Alleen moesten de zimmer ringen vervangen worden.

Ook is de cardanas is nog een keer nagekeken en het bleek toch dat de achterste centreerbus slecht was.

Straks wordt de definitieve proef rit door de garage gereden.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 26 maart 2013, 23:04

Trilling is er uit volgens de garage. Ben benieuwd.
Morgen avond ophalen

En ik neem het oude differentieel mee.
Ik kan de nieuwe lager set ook overnemen maar dan moeten er wel nog nieuwe planetaire tandwielen in.
Die waren een euro of 40,- per stuk. bij Mb.
Het grote tandwiel en pion as zijn nog goed.

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor MB280E » 26 maart 2013, 23:24

Dag Mark.
Hoe zijn de subframerubbers van de achtras? Bij mijn taxi waren die volledig ingezakt( 150.000km)
Indien deze uitgezakt zijn, dan staat de cardanas ook niet meer correct uitgelijnd op het diff.
Ik heb deze bij mijn taxi vervangen maar helaas nog niet kunnen proefrijden.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 26 maart 2013, 23:50

Nee daar is nog niets aan gedaan, ik zal ze controleren.
Heeft iemand daar een mooi topic over met foto's ?
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 28 maart 2013, 22:21

Mooi om te horen dat het misschien is opgelost Mark. Laat het even weten! En wat kostte die andere diff nu uiteindelijk?
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 28 maart 2013, 22:44

LOL zit je net een PM te sturen.

Maar helaas problemen zijn met het vervangen van het differentieel niet opgelost.

Ik wordt er langzamerhand gek van :devil :devil :devil
Al dat ge-probeer en maar vervangen van onderdelen heeft nog steeds niets opgelost.

Ik zal me maar eens gaan melden op een sleutel dag.
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 28 maart 2013, 23:04

Ik had een idee om een ROLLERBANK in elkaar te flansen zodat we m belast kunnen gebruiken en luisteren onder de wagen... maar verder nog niet echt iets uitgewerkt hihi
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Diospuszta » 29 maart 2013, 14:58

Hoi,

Als de auto op een brug staat en de draagarmen zijn goed ondersteunt kan de snelheid gewoon opgevoerd worden naar de snelheid waarop de trilling begint.
Het lijkt me dan sterk dat je de oorzaak niet kunt vinden maar ik heb begrepen dat dit al gebeurd is en dat daar het differentieel uit gekomen is.
Dat probleem moet nu dus opgelost zijn dus kan de proef op de brug opnieuw uitgevoerd worden, lijkt mij.

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 29 maart 2013, 17:24

Nee volgens mij was het het differentieel ook niet toch Mark?
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 29 maart 2013, 18:52

De autowas terug bij de automaat man omdat de bak bleef haken met het naar de R schakelen.

De auto stond omhoog en heeft hij de auto loos laten draaien om te horen of er bij geluiden kwamen uit de automaat.
Maar dat was verder goed. Wel hoorde hij dat differentieel herrie maakte, het was nog niet het bekende janken. Dit werd erger naar mate de snelheid werd opgevoerd. Het advies was om de lagers van de pion as te vervangen omdat daar speling op zat en er was olie lekkage.
Gelijk zouden de lagers waar de steek assen in draaien ook worden vervangen alsmede de keerringen.
Bij het openmaken van het differentieel bleek volgens hem er teveel slijtage aan de planetaire tandwielen te zitten, en was het zonde om er nieuwe lagers in te zetten. Hij heeft vervolgens twee weken gezocht naar een ander die goed was en van deze de lagers en keerringen vervangen.

Cardan gestraald en gespoten, ophang rubber achter ziet er prima uit. keurig netjes allemaal.
En kon de knip natuurlijk trekken.
Maar mijn probleem van de trilling is niet weg.
De garage heeft keurig aangeboden om het alsnog na te zien.

Ik vraag het wel even bij mijn garage houder of ik op de brug loos kan draaien dat is dichter bij.

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor DarkRaverNL » 29 maart 2013, 20:58

Hmmm je hebt zowat alles aan de aandrijflijn gedaan dan nu... Waar kan het nog in zitten... Dan moet het misschien uit de motor komen? Ik weet niet wat er allemaal daar in onbalans kan raken of bonken wanneer er kracht gevraagd wordt...
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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 29 maart 2013, 21:08

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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Frankie68 » 29 maart 2013, 22:30

heb je al eens geprobeerd om tijdens de beruchte snelheid de motor gewoon uit te zetten?
Zo is bij mij ook een trilling/gebonk tevoorschijn gekomen..het zat ook achterin ..


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Re: Trilling van de auto

Berichtdoor Mark300DT » 29 maart 2013, 23:23

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