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W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel : Diesel Specifiek

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W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

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W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 23 jun 2018, 14:26

Hallo,

Ik ben nu eindelijk toch aan mijn project begonnen om mijn 200 Benzine om te bouwen naar 200D. Ik ben nu eenmaal een dieselfanaat en hoewel de M121 Benzinemotor altijd wel goed loopt hoor ik toch liever een dieselmotor tokkelen.
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Voor de ombouw heb ik een OM621.VIII Dieselmotor gekocht van 1965. Dit is de 5 maal gelagerde 200 Diesel met 55PK.
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de gekochtte Diesel OM621.VIII
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Ik heb de afgelopen maanden stukje bij beetje de motor optisch gezuiverd, delen nieuw laten verzinken etc.
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nieuwe brandstofslang laten opknijpen
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Met het ondercarter eraf kon ikz ien dat er cilinderbussen in het blok zitten. Deze kwamen af fabriek pas in de W115. De motor is dus gereviseerd. Het ziet er van binnen goed uit, dat geeft vertrouwen.
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Onderzijde cilinders en zuigers, er zitten cilinderbussen in!
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 27 jun 2018, 21:23

M121 motor eruit
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koppeling passen met bak.jpg
Koppeling uitrichten. Makkelijker met een losse prise-as maar die had ik even niet bij de hand helaas.
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kabels voor de voorgloeibewaker gemaakt
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Ook het wat verweerde bakeliet voor de voorruit meteen wat opgeschuurd met 1000 waterproof en daarna gepolijst met Commandant. Ziet er weer wat beter uit.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 28 jun 2018, 22:53

Vandaag nieuwe voorgloeibewaker ontvangen. Ik had de oude helaas vernield en kon zo gauw geen andere vinden.

Was gelukkig nog te krijgen en niet eens zo heel erg duur.
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Ook 20 liter Diesel gehaald (V-power), de start stop hendel op de injectiepomp zat vast en wilde niet in de stopstand. Waarschijnlijk wat verkleefd in de pomp. Het systeem dus even met diesel gevuld en doorgepomp en de pomp vol 5W olie geschud. Tikje met een kunststof hamertje en de hendel is weer los. (meteen maar een mooie ouderwetse Jerrycan gekocht)
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor wimada » 29 jun 2018, 06:41

Mooi Project Math :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 29 jun 2018, 22:43

Math, :handgestures-thumbup: :handgestures-thumbup: , leuk topic
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor JohndeWinger » 30 jun 2018, 00:19

Zal mij benieuwen hoe dat straks loopt Math :think:
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 30 jun 2018, 12:34

Hoi hoi,

John, als een tractor waarschijnlijk :grin:

Groeten, Math

Kijk, dit was mijn eerste auto. Ik had toen nog geen rijbewijs en mocht de auto even bij een oudoom neerzetten. Dat was een donkerrode diesel, vandaar dat ik naar precies zo´n auto terugverlang (heb deze foto laatst teruggevonden)
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Patrick1 » 30 jun 2018, 20:06

Erg leuk om te volgen!
En een filmpje plaatsen als hij draaid hè! :grin:
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 02 jul 2018, 20:16

Zal zeker een filmpje maken als hij loopt!

Vandaag de dynamo op de motor gemonteerd en daarna de motor in de auto.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor John57 » 02 jul 2018, 23:23

mooi he? zoveel ruimte onder de kap :-)
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Semrick » 03 jul 2018, 19:59

Mooi projectje.. ZIet er uit als nieuw.. ;-)
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 11 jul 2018, 21:52

Hallo allemaal,

Inmiddels toch ook maar een gereviseerde startmotor erbij gekocht. De oude zag er niet uit (en was ook niet helemaal de goede, en die van de W115 zijn toch anders (had ik even niet gezien).
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Inmiddels wel een luchtfilter gevonden, de man waar ik de motor van heb gekocht heeft hem teruggevonden.
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Helaas start de Motor niet. Heeft toch wat lang droog gestaan denk ik... ik ben bang dat de plunjers in de injectiepomp vastzitten :-o

We prutsen verder..
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 23 jul 2018, 23:12

Nou, ik zat intussen wat te balen en het spul eerst maar eens laten weken in de injectiereiniger.

Maar voorlopig geen succes. Vanavond toch maar de aansluitingen op de pomp eruit gedraaid.

Uit de 1e en 3e aansluiting kwam helemaal niets. Bij deze 2 zat dan ook het drukventieltje helemaal vast en moest met een tang uit de houder getrokken worden. Daarna schoon en gangbaar gemaakt natuurlijk.

Ook stonden inderdaad alle plunjertjes praktisch helemaal omhoog. Ik heb ze met een kunststof hamer en doorslag (met gevoel) losgetikt.

Daarna met ingedraaide aansluitingen eerst met een ratel en daarna op de startmotor rondgedraaid. Uit alle 4 komt n diesel :handgestures-thumbup:

Ook voorzichtig de hendel aan de pomp wat bewogen om te zien of de plunjers draaien. Dat doen ze gelukkig. Was wel even bang dat de cylindertjes daarbij kunnen verdraaien (omdat ze niet vastgehouden worden door het aansluitstuk).

Morgen maar weer eens verder.

Groeten, Math
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor johnprins12 » 24 jul 2018, 11:45

Leuk project, zal best goed komen.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 25 jul 2018, 17:06

Hij rijdt!

Net een proefritje gemaakt.Helaas is het net wat druk op de weg (rond 17h) dus maar weer naar huis. Misschien vanavond even een langere rit.

Er lekte wat diesel dus ik heb 1 inspuitleiding wat vaster gedraaid. Oliedruk warm 1,25 bar (niet erg hoog), rook valt erg mee.

Eerst maar eens wat km maken.

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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Luke » 25 jul 2018, 20:37

Leuk uitgebreid project, goed nieuws dus!

Opzich is dat niet een heel gekke oliedruk voor een warm blok. Ik neem aan bij stationair? Wat voor olie zit erin? Met het warme weer wordt alles wat warmer en dus wat dunner. Zelf zit in warm vaak net onder de 2 bar in mijn W123 200D.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 01 aug 2018, 20:08

Hoi Luke,

Er zit 14W40 in. Het is ook wel warm deze dagen maar toch ben ik een iets hogere oliedruk gewend.
Enfin, het werkt, en hij rookt niet. Ik zal er de volgende keer wat 20W bijschudden.

Vandaag weer even wezen toeren.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 01 aug 2018, 21:24

Ik ben het met je eens wat betreft de oliedruk.
Je kunt kijken of er een overdrukventiel blijft hangen, je filter zul je vervangen hebben. Neem ik aan.
Heb je geen lekkage op de leiding naar de drukmeter?
En de o-ringen in het filter en onder het filterdeksel, heel en de juiste diameter?
Experimenteren met olie kan, 20W50 zal iets uitmaken, verwacht geen wonderen.
10W60 is ook nog een optie, is koud niet zo dik, dus begint snel te smeren en is warm nog wat dikker.
Neem ook de oliepomp onder de loep, en de zuigbuis, lekt de zuigbuis, heb je stationair ook een lage druk, een versleten pomp dito.
Is dat het niet, kom je bij de lagers uit, hoofdlagers, drijfstanglagers.
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 05 aug 2018, 15:36

Hoi Richard,

Ja er zit een nieuw filter in. Ook het hoofdfilter heb ik dit maal eens vernieuwd.
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Bij koude motor is de druk wel 3 bar, maar bij warme olie zakt hij stationair naar 1,25 bar en bij lage toeren komt hij ook niet meteen naar de 3 bar.

Denk dat het blok wel goed gereviseerd is maar misschien toch ergens wat lagerspeling of iets anders. Er komt in elk geval zeer weinig rook uit de uitlaat, dat is dan weer wel een goed teken :)
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Re: W110 200 ombouwen naar OM621 Diesel

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 05 aug 2018, 20:16

Wat weet je van het blok?
Wanneer is het gereviseerd, hoeveel km is er daar na mee gereden?
Waarschijnlijk zijn het vraagtekens.

Ik heb meegemaakt dat een net gereviseerd blok, door mij ingebouwt en in gebruik genomen, een lage oliedruk had, met name stationair, de kleppentrein piepte door metaal op metaal contact.
Bleek dat de krukas was geslepen en er standaard lagers in waren gekomen in plaats van overmaat.
Het is netjes opgelost door het revisiebedrijf, zij hebben het blok uitgebouwt, de juiste lagers geplaatst en het blok weer ingebouwt. Daarna was het goed.
Het blijkt maar weer dat het gewoon mensenwerk is...

Ik zou toch boven water proberen te krijgen waar de fout zit.
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