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Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 10 nov 2022, 11:19

Moet officieel dan die uitlijnen die schroef gebruiken?
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 10 nov 2022, 21:17

Als hij werkt volgens de voorschriften van MB wel.
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 16 nov 2022, 09:38

Inmiddels de verzette Spie geplaatst.
Als je de bovenste kettinggeleider losmaakt kan het tandwiel eraf (ketting eerst vastgemaakt met wat kabelbinders).
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De Spie is 4 graden verzet, geeft op de krukas 8 graden. Ik heb nieuwe merktekens gezet op d enokkenas en nokkenassteun want het originele merkteken op de vulring verdraait mee met de nokkenas. Daar zie je dus niks aan.
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De motor en nokkenas staan nu heel netjes op OT, bijna zelfs iets vroeger. De motor eerst met de hand wat rondgedraaid en daarna gestart. Hij loopt weer heel netjes. Bij een ritje meende ik dat hij wat krachtiger aanvoelt nu.

Het starten is echter niet verbeterd... :x

Ik ga nog een paar kleine dingetjes proberen (Betere Startmotor, ander filterhuis met correcte ontluchtingsschroef, snelgloeiers, kabel aan vollasthendel injectiepomp strakker instellen). Maar anders gaat dit blok er toch weer uit en bouw ik de 240D OM616 in. Ik heb de auto wel nodig en hij moet dus ook in de winter goed starten.

Jammer maar weer even wat extra werk :wink

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 17 nov 2022, 16:05

Pas op dat je niet om de oorzaak heen gaat.. dus: als je startmotor fris rondgaat, dan ligt het daar niet aan. Als de gewone groeiers goed werken, ligt het daar niet aan. Wat is de druk bij warme motor?
Heb je een goede verstuiving op alle verstuivers?
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor groove_champion » 17 nov 2022, 22:59

Mooie ingreep Math! Ik kende dat niet met een verzette spie! :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 18 nov 2022, 11:22

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 19 nov 2022, 11:12

Ha ha Richard,

Ja het het wordt langzaam wel erg duidelijk. Ik denk idd te weinig compresie. Het blok loopt nochtans inderdaad erg mooi en stil, rookt weinig/niet (zelfs mijn vrouw zei dat) en heeft goede oliedruk. Net jouw ervaring met die Peugeots. Mijn pa zei ook altijd, hoe meer versleten hoe stiller en mooier ze lopen.

Vanmorgen met deze al lagere temperaturen kreeg ik hem na 2x gloeien wel aan de praat maar toch moeizaam.

Ik denk dat ik aan het volgende project begin: inbouwen van de 240D OM616.
(Als die goed loopt EN start, dan begin ik aan de 220D revisie).

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 19 nov 2022, 12:59

Inderdaad, Math, de lagere compressie maakt ze stiller.

Misschien kun je als tussenprojectje nog de verstuivers van de 220D in de 200D plaatsen?
Als dat het starten niet verbetert, de pomp van de 220D erop zetten als de motor naast de auto staat?
Als dat geen verschil maakt, weet je dat het in de (opbouw van) compressie ligt, en niet aan de pomp van de 200D.
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 26 nov 2022, 20:34

Hoi Richard,

Bedankt voor het meedenken! De Verstuivers had ik ook al schoongemaakt en opnieuw afgeperst. De pomp is van n 220D anders dacht ik dan van een 200D.

Enfin, Ik heb de 200D er weer uitgehaald en de 240D OM616 erin gezet. Eens zien hoe die het doet.
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Ik heb op de OM616 het oude type dynamo gezet, deze past ook. Ik wil de kabels niet veranderen vandaar.
Nu nog een ander inschroefsstuk voor de temperatuurvoeler in de kop monteren. De capillair voeler van de 220D past niet in de 240D kop.
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 27 nov 2022, 11:03

Ik zie dat je hulp hebt :)
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor John.M » 27 nov 2022, 22:28

Wel lekker bezig Math en idd goeie hulp :lol: :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 28 nov 2022, 21:21

De OM616 (240D) inmiddels al gestart. Ging heel goed. (Ik moet wel zeggen dat deze startmotor echt veel sneller ronddraait.... ik had deze ook op de 200D motor willen proberen maar dat is er niet meer van gekomen... :oops: )

Maar dit blok wil zeker wel goed starten en loopt nu ook mooi. Ik was nog even de langere ondersteradiateurslang kwijt, maar heb deze gisteren bij mijn pa teruggevonden gelukkig. Vandaag ook koelvloeistof gevuld en nog de reeds ingebouwde 4 vleugel ventilator vervangen door de 5 vleugel die op de OM616 hoort.

Morgen maar eens een proefritje maken :)

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor denman1710 » 30 dec 2022, 00:11

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 30 dec 2022, 13:30

Hoi Den,

Voorlopig even uitgestapt ;-) Gisteren met de Wagen terug uit Trier, makkelijk op een tank heen- en terug.

Ik zal van de zomer eens beginnen aan de originele 220D motor. Deze demonteren en reviseren. Ook wil ik noge ens de Retrosound DAB+ radio inbouwen. Dat soort klusjes.

Verder gewoon rijden :handgestures-thumbup:

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Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 220D
Bouwjaar: 1972
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 30 dec 2022, 16:12

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Geregistreerd: 03 okt 2014, 17:25
Woonplaats: gemeente Schagen
Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 230TE
Bouwjaar: 1982
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 26 jan 2023, 13:01

Intussen nog bezig met wat kleine dingetjes en ook niet meer heel veel gereden.

Het laadstroomlampje ging ineens branden. Dus maar weer de originele dynamo van de 220D ingebouwd. De dynamo die ik jaren geleden preventief had opgeknapt was dus weer stuk :evil: Ik had er nieuwe lagers en koolborstels ingezet. Nu bleek een kabeltje van een koolborstel los te zijn gegaan... lastig want deze zitten schijnbaar met een speciale geleidende lijm vastgeplakt. Even zien wat te doen. Het makkelijkst is denk ik weer nieuwe koolborstels en dan nu ook maar de collector af laten draaien.
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koolborstels draad los...
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collector mag ook afgedraaid...
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OF: Nu dan toch maar ombouwen naar een nieuwe 55A Dynamo met interne regelaar en de kabels aanpassen...wat is wijsheid :think:
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Verder zit ik behoorlijk te sukkelen met de verwarmingskraan. Er was niets aan de hand maar omdat ik er een reserve had dacht ik deze maar eens preventief te reviseren. 2 grote en 2 kleine ringen ervoor besteld bij de duitse club maar uiteindelijk leverden ze 2 grote maar maar 1 kleine ring :(
Dus de kraan maar helemaal zuiver gemaakt en uiteindelijk de 2 grote ringen en 2 andere (identieke) universele kleine ringen ingebouwd. (Want 2 verschillende L en R voelt ook niet goed).
Na de ombouw van de 200D motor de gereviseerde kraan ook meteen ingebouwd maar; Lekt enorm koelvloeistof, vooral aan de linkerkant. Dus weer uitgebouwd en oude kraan teruggebouwd.

Nu met de 240D motor dacht ik ergens onzichtbaar koelvloeistof verlies te hebben. Ik dacht weer aan de verwarmingskraan. Deze dus weer eens bekeken en aan de linkerkant de geleverde juiste kleine ring ingebouwd. Kraan verwisseld en: Weer lek nu aan de rechterkant... :roll: Dus weer uitgebouwd en de oude kraan weer erin....
Zo blijf je wel bezig.

Dus nu maar weer opnieuw ringen besteld: 3 kleine en 2 grote, zodat ik beide kranen correct kan reviseren.
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Groeten math
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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 15 feb 2023, 18:26

Inmiddels ook de collectors op het anker laten afdraaien. moest dan wel het anker weer uit het (eerder vernieuwde) lager trekken met de poelitrekker.

Omdat ik nog meer oude dynamos had liggen heb ik meteen 3 ankers laten afdraaien. Bij eentje was de slijtage te diep en gingen we op plaatsen door de koperlaag heen helaas.

In elk geval kan ik nu 2 dynamos opknappen zodat ik er straks weer 1 reserve heb (heb al een setje lagers en dus koolborstels klaarliggen).

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 16 feb 2023, 10:41

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 16 feb 2023, 10:55

Hoi Richard,

Nee die kende ik niet, dat is dus ook nog een optie. Ik weet niet of je deze ringen er zo af kan trekken, er moet in elk geval een kabeltje aan vast gesoldeerd worden.

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Re: Eindelijk weer een Diesel, 220D/8 1972

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 16 feb 2023, 16:00

Ja, het kabeltje moet je los solderen, dan kun je de sleepringen eraf trekken.
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